Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 22nd Apr 2013 12:10 UTC
Windows The Verge confirms an earlier story by Mary Jo Foley. "Microsoft is preparing to revive the traditional Start button it killed with Windows 8. Sources familiar with Microsoft's plans have revealed to The Verge that Windows 8.1 will include the return of the Start button. We understand that the button will act as a method to simply access the Start Screen, and will not include the traditional Start Menu. The button is said to look near-identical to the existing Windows flag used in the Charm bar."
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RE[4]: Comment by MOS6510
by MOS6510 on Mon 22nd Apr 2013 18:20 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by MOS6510"
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One of my favorite lines: It's easy when you know how.

Windows 8 isn't difficult, but going from Windows 95 all the way to Windows 7 is almost zero learning curve. If you're a Windows 95 guru, frozen in time and revived many years later and shown Windows 7 you can operate it.

With Windows 8 there is more to figure out, mainly due to the Metro screen, which may probably prove very difficult for the less talented among us.

When I asked a co-worker what version of Windows she had at home she replied it was all strange so I knew it was Windows 8.

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RE[5]: Comment by MOS6510
by lucas_maximus on Mon 22nd Apr 2013 19:10 in reply to "RE[4]: Comment by MOS6510"
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I had to explain to one of the guys in the office how quite a few features in Windows 7 worked, after he got an upgraded machine.

A lot of people didn't like the XP start menu, when it came out.

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RE[6]: Comment by MOS6510
by judgen on Mon 22nd Apr 2013 19:33 in reply to "RE[5]: Comment by MOS6510"
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I still used classic start menu when forced to run windows, in kde i use classic style as well, in awesome wm it is afaik the only option and finally in my main WM (AmiWM) it is a text based menu defined in .amiwmrc. Great stuff and "one click launches" is in my way of computing faster (for me atleast) than two clicks+search as is the prefered "new way" in windows.
I guess the new way can be faster if the menu is an disorganized mess, but i really try to keep my items tidy.

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Agreed. Windows 8 isn't difficult, its just different.

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RE[5]: Comment by MOS6510
by phoenix on Tue 23rd Apr 2013 17:21 in reply to "RE[4]: Comment by MOS6510"
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Forget "the least talented" users; most of our IT dept (granted, we're heavy Linux users) couldn't get to the friggin' login screen for 5-10 minutes! Ok, so this was with all the preview versions, which didn't include any of promised tutorial/first-run prompts. But when seasoned pros can't even get past the hidden "click-and-drag upwards in order to view the actual login screen" lockscreen, there's something wrong with the product.

And who puts a "lockscreen" on a desktop OS?

Only a single person (out of 14) in the IT dept has kept Windows 8 on their system, and they have it hacked up with a bunch of "give me the desktop experience; kill Metro" utils. The rest of us use XP or 7 when we need to access Windows.

Microsoft used to be really good at providing easy migration paths: Windows 95 included Program Manager; Windows 2000 borrowed the interface from Windows 98; Windows XP included Classic theme; Windows 7 allows you to turn off Aero.

Then, they throw Windows 8 at the masses, and completely remove or hide as much of the old system as possible. And they wonder why people aren't flocking to it in droves?

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RE[6]: Comment by MOS6510
by MOS6510 on Tue 23rd Apr 2013 17:37 in reply to "RE[5]: Comment by MOS6510"
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Ah, the lock screen. This is the Windows 8 feature that truly defeated my legendary skill of figuring things out without a manual.

It had me staring at the screen for some time wondering why people claimed Windows 8 PCs booted so quick and mine didn't.

I do wonder why some people claim some kind of unlock technique is needed as I just hit a (mouse) button.

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