Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 23rd Apr 2013 22:35 UTC
Apple "Apple just posted its hotly-anticipated Q2 2013 earnings, and the company posted a profit of $9.5b on revenues of $43.6b, compared to $11.6b in profit on $39.2b in revenue this quarter last year and $13.1b in profit on $54.5b in revenue last quarter. That's right in line with the company's guidance from last quarter. Most importantly, iPhone sales are fairly flat year-over-year. Apple sold 37.04 million in Q2 2013 versus last year's 35.1 million, a modest growth of seven percent. iPad sales for the quarter were 19.5 million, up a massive 65 percent from last year's 11.8 million, but the average selling price (ASP) dropped fairly steeply year-over-year, likely due to the introduction of the cheaper iPad mini."
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RE[5]: It's a funny old world
by MOS6510 on Thu 25th Apr 2013 12:50 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: It's a funny old world"
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I was being a little bit sarcastic, but I do think there is some truth in it.

Regarding OS X, I think OS X 10.8 can do what 10.1 could and much more. So I don't think it can be called dumber or more limiting.

As over time a lot more features have been added I'd even say it's less easy to master/use than it used to be in the early years.

I agree that removing powerful features and replace them with more limited GUIs can also be called dumbing down, but from my experience when something becomes more user friendly people are quick to play the dumb card.

If OS X dumbs anything down it's the user who has to know nothing about computers, kernels, drives, file systems, etc... to use the computer. When I used Linux I knew every bit of hardware my PC had. I have no idea how many Ghz my iMac CPU is clocked at. I do think it has 8 GB of RAM, although I'm not 100%. Don't know about the graphics, sound or network controllers.

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RE[6]: It's a funny old world
by Neolander on Thu 25th Apr 2013 17:49 in reply to "RE[5]: It's a funny old world"
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Okay, here's my rant regarding what's wrong with OSX today.

I would say that the user-facing part of OS X did start to go in a pretty awful direction from Lion onwards. From an explosion of ridiculously over-the top animations and real-world visual metaphors in Lion, combined with a disjointed file saving experience between Apple and non-Apple software, to Mountain Lion's "Gatekeeper" that makes decentralized software distribution a power user feature....

Then the ecosystem around the OS is getting pretty rotten too. When official Apple retailers are not even allowed to own or sell OS X installation discs or pen drives for professional reasons, you know that something is smelling bad. The gradual shelving of any kind of hardware serviceability also feels worrying. More and more, Apple are tightening their grip on users. They want these to rely on them, all the time, for every task, and only them, and they hide their actions towards that goals in the middle of heaps of unnecessary fluff. I don't think that's a healthy attitude for a platform owner to take.

The official justification for this Orwellian behaviour is that it helps newbies. They don't have to learn about what differentiates shady software from regular one anymore, because Apple will take care of that issue for them. They don't have to take the time to find a cheap replacement battery for their laptop anymore, because they'll need to go to Apple for the repairs anyway. And so on.

Myself, I call it official dumbing down for the barely hidden officious sake of ever-increasing platform lockdown. And that's why myself, as someone who cares about controlling the machine rather than falling under its control, I'll stick with Linux for now, even if it means having to know about silly trivia like which GPU is in my computer. While looking for a better solution in the long run, if possible.

Because as you say, with Linux you are still getting a bit controlled by the machine, only in a different way. Here, it's because of technical limitations stemming from developer incompetence, rather than ethical ones stemming from a conscious will. There are many things which I still have to deal with on Linux, that I shouldn't need to care about. The good thing is, incompetence-bound problems can be solved, so I'll continue to look for a solution to these other problems even if I have to create it myself.

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RE[7]: It's a funny old world
by MOS6510 on Thu 25th Apr 2013 19:11 in reply to "RE[6]: It's a funny old world"
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I guess there are a number of reason not to like Apple and OS X like the ones you named.

But it depends on who you are and what you want. With Apple stuff little goes wrong, because they make it hard for you to mess things up and if something does happen they'll help you out.

So it's ideal for people who either don't have any IT skills, don't have the time or just don't want to be bothered with it.

A number of OS X users I know are former Linux users and that includes me.

I still like Linux and like to fiddle around with it, but I don't want to use it as my main system.

I bought an iMac G5 in 2005 with Panther, I upgraded it to Tiger, to Leopard, bought a new iMac and did a system transfer, upgrade to Snow Leopard, upgrade to Lion, new iMac and system transfer and upgrade to Mountain Lion. No problems, it still works and you can still find stuff from the G5.

I've wasted many hours fixing my Linux system. Sometimes I disabled it myself, sometimes it was some software/system upgrade that left me with a crippled system. You learn a lot fixing it, but after a while you just want it to work. So I sacrifice some freedom and flexibility for something that just works.

But nothing stops me from also using a PC with Linux or Windows. I've been playing around with Windows 8 the last few weeks. My Linux PC just had a fresh install (because the previous install was messed up(...)).

The notion that Apple captures you in a walled garden is a bit extreme. You can walk out anytime you want.

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