Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 3rd May 2013 20:10 UTC
Google "Internet giant Google has changed the tagline on the homepage of its Palestinian edition from 'Palestinian Territories' to 'Palestine'. The change, introduced on 1 May, means google.ps now displays 'Palestine' in Arabic and English under Google's logo. Using the word Palestine is controversial for some. Israeli policy is that the borders of a Palestinian state are yet to be agreed." Good but daring move.
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Comment by Drumhellar
by Drumhellar on Fri 3rd May 2013 20:44 UTC
Drumhellar
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2005-07-12

In the US, it's almost taboo to support anything other than Israel's supremacy in the region, and recognizing Palestinians as people deserving of fundamental civil and human rights is very controversial in the US.

However, many American conservatives already swore off Google and switched to Bing (Or, at least said they would) because the Google doodle on Easter Sunday featured farm labor organizer Cesar Chavez to commemorate his birthday, rather than anything relating to Jesus. So, at least in the US, there will likely be a lot of noise in conservative news channels, but it probably won't effect their bottom line too much.

At any rate, I suppose I'll be getting the popcorn ready.

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by emarkp on Fri 3rd May 2013 20:51 in reply to "Comment by Drumhellar"
RE[2]: Comment by Drumhellar
by Soulbender on Sat 4th May 2013 03:19 in reply to "RE: Comment by Drumhellar"
Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

You're actually pretending to be a lefty here, right?


I like how you use "left" in a derogatory way but I guess you're American and you guys don't actually have a political spectrum.

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RE: Comment by Drumhellar
by project_2501 on Fri 3rd May 2013 21:12 in reply to "Comment by Drumhellar"
project_2501 Member since:
2006-03-20

Worth remembering that Jesus wasn't a white man with blue eyes.... he was a brown man.

Not sure how many of the white US religious right realise that?

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RE[2]: Comment by Drumhellar
by Jondice on Fri 3rd May 2013 22:38 in reply to "RE: Comment by Drumhellar"
Jondice Member since:
2006-09-20

Ummm pretty sure he was a raptor.
http://sweetraptorjesus2.ytmnd.com/

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RE[2]: Comment by Drumhellar
by unclefester on Sat 4th May 2013 05:15 in reply to "RE: Comment by Drumhellar"
unclefester Member since:
2007-01-13

Worth remembering that Jesus...was a brown man.


There is no historical evidence whatsoever that the biblical Jesus ever existed. The teachings of "Jesus" are little more than a rehash of Buddhism. The gospels are essentially a mishmash (virgin birth, resurrection etc) of Eastern religious myths.

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RE[2]: Comment by Drumhellar
by darknexus on Sat 4th May 2013 08:53 in reply to "RE: Comment by Drumhellar"
darknexus Member since:
2008-07-15

Worth remembering that Jesus wasn't a white man with blue eyes.... he was a brown man.

You mean would have been, as "was" implies that the fellow actually existed. I've got my doubts there.

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RE: Comment by Drumhellar
by shmerl on Fri 3rd May 2013 22:29 in reply to "Comment by Drumhellar"
shmerl Member since:
2010-06-08

In the US, it's almost taboo to support anything other than Israel's supremacy in the region, and recognizing Palestinians as people deserving of fundamental civil and human rights is very controversial in the US.


Which has quite an obvious reason - current power groups in PA are all pro fascist (be it Hamas or Fatah). Voicing support for them would be rather weird. Not that having an autonomy is bad in itself. That's not really the place to discuss 1 state or 2 state approaches. But all decent people agree that having a fascist governed autonomy is bad. That's the basic reason for US attitude. What's surprising is that Europe at large is ignoring this and cheers to Hamas, Fatah and co. rise to power through democratic means (the democratic part is not true anyway, but let's pretend). They seem to forget that the fact that fascists can come to power democratically doesn't make them any less fascists.

Edited 2013-05-03 22:46 UTC

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RE[2]: Comment by Drumhellar
by Soulbender on Sat 4th May 2013 02:47 in reply to "RE: Comment by Drumhellar"
Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

Which has quite an obvious reason


Yes: lobbying and pressure.

What's surprising is that Europe at large is ignoring this and cheers to Hamas, Fatah and co. rise to power through democratic means (the democratic part is not true anyway, but let's pretend).


You know, just because you're not unilaterally for everything Israel does doesn't mean you're for everything the other side does.

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RE: Comment by Drumhellar
by LighthouseJ on Sat 4th May 2013 18:04 in reply to "Comment by Drumhellar"
LighthouseJ Member since:
2009-06-18

In the US, it's almost taboo to support anything other than Israel's supremacy in the region, and recognizing Palestinians as people deserving of fundamental civil and human rights is very controversial in the US.


Actually, this isn't true, at least not these days. I think you're being melodramatic here.

Popular support for Israel has big gaps in society. One thing I took away from the Arab Spring is that we started to question supplying arms to the perceived freedom fighters in Egypt, to the Libyan freedom fighters, etc... not really knowing what the US was getting in bed with, and remembering the CIA supporting al Qaeda against the Soviets. I think we've already begun to question support for Israel with the same critical eye.

In the 2012 election cycle, conservatives were rushing to claim that they would bring the US more closely aligned with Israel after Obama has let the relationship cool.

The question these days is who are they and will we just be exchanging one problem for another?

However, many American conservatives already swore off Google and switched to Bing (Or, at least said they would) because the Google doodle on Easter Sunday featured farm labor organizer Cesar Chavez to commemorate his birthday, rather than anything relating to Jesus. So, at least in the US, there will likely be a lot of noise in conservative news channels, but it probably won't effect their bottom line too much.


Both parties like to threaten to boycott big decisions in some way.
Check out the threats of conservatives and liberals threaten to move to Canada when something doesn't go their way, as if depriving us of their company would be so detrimental.

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