Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 4th May 2013 09:36 UTC
Hardware, Embedded Systems "NeXT Computer (the original 68030 cube) was a high end workstation that was manufactured between 1988 - 1990. Back then it was a very expensive machine as a complete system would start at $6500 (in 1988 dollars). The machine is a 1 foot cube magnesium case that houses the computer. At the time, its performance was impressive, with a Motorola 68030 CPU running at a screaming 25Mhz, a dedicated floating point CPU, and a digital signal processor built into the system. NeXT cubes featured a magneto-optical drive that stored a whopping 256 Megabytes (by comparison, high end Mac systems at the time might have featured a 20 Megabyte hard drive.) In its day, this was the "Ferrari" of desktop systems!" No new information for the average OSNews reader, but lots of beautiful photos for a beautiful Saturday afternoon.
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RE[2]: I miss NeXTstep
by tomchr on Sat 4th May 2013 14:52 UTC in reply to "RE: I miss NeXTstep"
tomchr
Member since:
2009-02-01

Well, people tend to reflect on disappointments in the light of better accomplishments...and NeXTstep was/is a huge milestone.

Critizing something isn't descending into hatred. Badly made products should be subjected to critique - often and repeatedly - until they are improved or replaced.

It is not simply a question of "using" or "not using" a product, you ignorant fcuk. It is a comment on the lack of GUI progress the past 20 years.

If you do not like reading opinionated comments, well then stop reading them!

That being said, I am really and truly tired of people using the phrase "This is starting to get old".

Edited 2013-05-04 15:12 UTC

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RE[3]: I miss NeXTstep
by M.Onty on Sat 4th May 2013 15:10 in reply to "RE[2]: I miss NeXTstep"
M.Onty Member since:
2009-10-23


That being said, I am really and truly tired of people using the phrase "This is starting to get old".


"This is starting to get old" is really & truly starting to get old.

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RE[3]: I miss NeXTstep
by Chris_G on Sat 4th May 2013 15:54 in reply to "RE[2]: I miss NeXTstep"
Chris_G Member since:
2012-10-25

Progress is a matter of opinion. I for one, adore GNOME 3. I suspect you see that as a step in the wrong direction. I'm also quite fond of the recent trend toward tiling window managers. That's my opinion. One could, in principle, engage in civil discourse. Disagreeing with you does not make one an 'ignorant fcuk.' I know it's the Internet, but that's a poor excuse for abandoning respect and cool-headedness.

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RE[4]: I miss NeXTstep
by tomchr on Sat 4th May 2013 16:45 in reply to "RE[3]: I miss NeXTstep"
tomchr Member since:
2009-02-01

My blunt retort was meant as a sarcastic example of decending into hatred. Nothing more.

My impression of your statement was not that of disagreement, but of complacency and tacit acceptance. Values that I do not hold in high regard.

However, even if progress is a matter of opinion and reality is a matter of perception etc. I think that we can both agree that progress can only be influenced through the expression of opinion and engaging in civil discourse.

One's choice of desktop environments on Linux and FreeBSD are not limited in the same way as with Microsoft.

Check out "Windows 8: The Animated Evaluation" by Brian Boyko, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTYet-qf1jo

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RE[3]: I miss NeXTstep
by GraphiteCube on Sat 4th May 2013 19:01 in reply to "RE[2]: I miss NeXTstep"
GraphiteCube Member since:
2009-04-01

Your poor manner shows why those "PC vs Mac" advertisements have negative impact on people. If you disagree with me, show us your points, instead of swear at me.

Whether GUI itself has improved in last 20 years or not, I don't know, but I think we can't limit GUI design for mouse + keyboard only as nowadays more touch-based and motion-based input are being used.

Sure that user can use Flubox/ GNOME/ KDE/ IceWM with mouse + keyboard perfectly, but how about touch-based input? I think the start screen and Windows Store apps are just trying to serve users who are using touch-based input, BUT at the same time the desktop remains here. Just click into the desktop in Windows 8 and I can still use my keyboard and mouse to do my work, it is not hard.

I don't understand why people only focus on and restrict themselves in the start screen. Consider that start screen is a larger start menu, do you open start menu and make it stay on screen all the time? I don't do it because I just open start menu, type program name, press Enter and work with the program, the start menu is hidden. This is the same for start screen.

Some say that they're force to look at the start screen every time they switch on the computer, but ask yourself: What do you do when you see the desktop at first? I for myself would open start menu and launch a program. Here is the point: I can pin the program on start screen, and click on it right after login without looking at my desktop.

Yeah there is a learning curve, but so do for people switching among OSes. They need to find the tools they used to use on previous OS, they need to adapt to the look and feel.

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RE[4]: I miss NeXTstep
by tylerdurden on Sat 4th May 2013 21:53 in reply to "RE[3]: I miss NeXTstep"
tylerdurden Member since:
2009-03-17

Silly people thinking their computers should adapt to them and not the other way around, amirite?

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