Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 4th May 2013 09:36 UTC
Hardware, Embedded Systems "NeXT Computer (the original 68030 cube) was a high end workstation that was manufactured between 1988 - 1990. Back then it was a very expensive machine as a complete system would start at $6500 (in 1988 dollars). The machine is a 1 foot cube magnesium case that houses the computer. At the time, its performance was impressive, with a Motorola 68030 CPU running at a screaming 25Mhz, a dedicated floating point CPU, and a digital signal processor built into the system. NeXT cubes featured a magneto-optical drive that stored a whopping 256 Megabytes (by comparison, high end Mac systems at the time might have featured a 20 Megabyte hard drive.) In its day, this was the "Ferrari" of desktop systems!" No new information for the average OSNews reader, but lots of beautiful photos for a beautiful Saturday afternoon.
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RE[6]: I miss NeXTstep
by GraphiteCube on Sun 5th May 2013 14:13 UTC in reply to "RE[5]: I miss NeXTstep"
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Are you kidding? When asked about Ubuntu, Dell's "tech support representative" had no clue what we were talking about. They were, or at least acted, completely clueless. I eventually just gave up because at the time the computer wasn't going to be mine anyway, but also their site was extremely cryptic on Ubuntu, prominently advertising Windows every chance they got.

That was a while ago, sometime in 2006 back when they first started supposedly pre-loading Ubuntu, but every couple years I hear similar things. And I believe it, because I went through the same shit myself and Dell is as far down in Microsoft's pants as they can get (like most of the major OEMs).

After that experience, needless to say I don't plan on ever getting another Dell, and once I get a new machine this one's going back to my mom. To get a decent base system, you pretty much have to choose Windows; their FreeDOS and Ubuntu models were crap when we got this machine, crap last few times I checked over the years, and are most likely crap now.

The next machine I'm considering will probably be from system76, although they are Ubuntu-exclusive and I no longer have any desire to use Ubuntu and would prefer not to fuel Canonical. But oh well, it's better than paying Microsoft for yet another Windows license. It'll just be wiped anyway, so nothing new there... some things never change.

Who is kidding and why kidding? If Dell isn't doing their job well, it is their problem, how come Microsoft is responsible for that? Do people nowadays blame Microsoft whatever is related to "poor" PC experiences?

As mentioned by another person, you can consider Mac from Apple, you DO have choices. I haven't tried it myself but there was a software called rEFIt for booting OSes on Intel Macs, which may be suitable for Mac/ Linux dual systems.

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RE[7]: I miss NeXTstep
by UltraZelda64 on Sun 5th May 2013 18:21 in reply to "RE[6]: I miss NeXTstep"
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Who is kidding and why kidding? If Dell isn't doing their job well, it is their problem, how come Microsoft is responsible for that? Do people nowadays blame Microsoft whatever is related to "poor" PC experiences?

But see, that's the thing. Dell is doing their job damn well. Their job, as a Microsoft partner, is to advertise the living shit out of Windows and to try to get people on it, no matter what. It's no surprise why Ubuntu machines were always hard to find on their site, and why even on those very pages they still recommended Windows. That's just how far out Microsoft's reach is, and yet it was already claimed that somehow, supposedly "no one" is affected by Windows. Sorry, but no.

They indeed managed to sell another Windows license from us because we gave up, but never again.

Ws mentioned by another person, you can consider Mac from Apple, you DO have choices. I haven't tried it myself but there was a software called rEFIt for booting OSes on Intel Macs, which may be suitable for Mac/ Linux dual systems.

Buy a Mac? I'd rather start a fire and roll around in it than buy anything from Apple. At one point I may have considered their products... possibly. Years ago. Back when Mac OS X was still new and a pretty decent alternative to XP. Now, I see them and their business practices as virtually the same as Microsoft (especially in the 1990s), only they have traditionally been worse with vendor lock-in, DRM, and walled gardens. There is no way in hell I will support such a company. Never mind all the lawsuits.

These are some of the reasons I left Windows in the first place, and there's no way I'd switch to a company that does them all (and more) but to a far more extreme level than even Microsoft. I'll pass on the iDictator.

Edited 2013-05-05 18:23 UTC

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RE[8]: I miss NeXTstep
by GraphiteCube on Mon 6th May 2013 14:00 in reply to "RE[7]: I miss NeXTstep"
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Unless you can provide a clear evidence that Microsoft pay Dell to advertise Windows machines on Dell's website, I think what Dell doing is simply marketing what they want to sell. If Dell doesn't want you (i.e. customers) touch Linux, then they won't sell Linux machines from the beginning.

Also, have you considered Chromebook? IIRC it is just running Linux with modifications made by Google (well, *everyone* loves Google, right?).

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