Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 3rd May 2013 20:10 UTC
Google "Internet giant Google has changed the tagline on the homepage of its Palestinian edition from 'Palestinian Territories' to 'Palestine'. The change, introduced on 1 May, means google.ps now displays 'Palestine' in Arabic and English under Google's logo. Using the word Palestine is controversial for some. Israeli policy is that the borders of a Palestinian state are yet to be agreed." Good but daring move.
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Some facts
by adinas on Sun 5th May 2013 19:42 UTC
adinas
Member since:
2005-08-17

1. There never existed a Palestinian state in history nor a Palestinian people. Find one history book written before the 20th century which mentions them.

2. Israel was not created on someone elses land. It was the reestablishment of a country which was destroyed many years ago and then occupied by foreigners (some of which suddenly decided in the early 20th century that they are a people). During this entire time, Jews always lived in Israel even though they were prosecuted by both the Christian crusades and the Muslim hordes.

3. 70% of the Jordanian population is Palestinian. If it were a democracy, Jordan would be the Palestinian homeland.

4. Israel defended the land of Israel against the Assyrians, The Babylonians, the Hellenist empire, the Egyptians, the Romans, the British and the Arabs. I doubt Google will be the one to take her land away.

5. As long as Jews live and thrive in their homeland.on the ground, The Palestinians can have all the cyberspace in the world as far as I am concerned!

עם ישראל חי :-)

Edited 2013-05-05 19:42 UTC

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RE: Some facts
by Savior on Sun 5th May 2013 20:50 in reply to "Some facts"
Savior Member since:
2006-09-02

Some of your claims are a little strange...

2. ... During this entire time, Jews always lived in Israel even though they were prosecuted by both the Christian crusades and the Muslim hordes.


Other people also lived on that land (Canaanites, hint, hint...).

4. Israel defended the land of Israel against the Assyrians, The Babylonians, the Hellenist empire, the Egyptians, the Romans,

You mean... lost the land to all of them...?

the British

You mean make them go away by terrorist methods even though they would have gone and given you the land anyway, and even though they had been there to protect you?

and the Arabs.

This one last part is correct.

As for 5, I don't know -- it would be so nice if at least the cyberspace was something that we all (all nations, all people) could share together. It comes very close to that now, I just hope it won't change in the future.

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RE[2]: Some facts
by adinas on Sun 5th May 2013 21:54 in reply to "RE: Some facts"
adinas Member since:
2005-08-17

Some replies to your replies...

4. Israel defended the land of Israel against the Assyrians, The Babylonians, the Hellenist empire, the Egyptians, the Romans,
You mean... lost the land to all of them...?


Israel sometimes lost and sometimes won. Even when it lost, if eventually was able to overthrow its occupiers. It was only destroyed by Rome after existing for 1,000 years.
Yet the more interesting fact is looking at who is around today of all these great empires yet Israel exists.

When Israelis visit the Forum in Rome, they like to take pictures of themselves in front of the arch of Titus ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arch_of_Titus ) showing the V sign. Rome is in ruins yet Israel flourishes.

the British
You mean make them go away by terrorist methods even though they would have gone and given you the land anyway, and even though they had been there to protect you?

I fail to recall any acts of terror against civilians. Even the few attacks against British posts in Israel were usually objected to the majority of Jews. Compare that to the widely supported attacks specifically carried out against civilians by Arabs.(Heck, they massacre each other left and right across the ME, you can only imagine what they want to do to Jews)

As for 5, I don't know -- it would be so nice if at least the cyberspace was something that we all (all nations, all people) could share together. It comes very close to that now, I just hope it won't change in the future.


I can't argue with that :-)

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RE: Some facts
by Soulbender on Mon 6th May 2013 02:36 in reply to "Some facts"
Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

It was the reestablishment of a country which was destroyed many years ago and then occupied by foreigners


Oh I see. So what you're saying is that we should also give most of the land on the north american continent back to the native indians and the population that isn't native indian will have to relocate to, I dunno, Mexico or something. Maybe we could give them Minnesota or Alaska.
Sounds like a good plan. Perfectly reasonable. I cant see why it would meet any resistance from anyone.

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RE[2]: Some facts
by adinas on Mon 6th May 2013 06:06 in reply to "RE: Some facts"
adinas Member since:
2005-08-17

Your the one who wants to change the current situation whereby the rightful owners are the current rulers.

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RE: Some facts
by kwan_e on Mon 6th May 2013 02:57 in reply to "Some facts"
kwan_e Member since:
2007-02-18

2. Israel was not created on someone elses land. It was the reestablishment of a country which was destroyed many years ago and then occupied by foreigners (some of which suddenly decided in the early 20th century that they are a people). During this entire time, Jews always lived in Israel even though they were prosecuted by both the Christian crusades and the Muslim hordes.


That's not what your holy book says.

Your holy book says your people went in and genocided and murdered and raped and took child wives from the children of those you murdered.

Oh wait, you were talking about after WWII.

How convenient of you to pick an arbitrary point in history to reset to that conveniently benefits you. :shocked:

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