Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sun 5th May 2013 21:40 UTC, submitted by Anonymous Penguin
Debian and its clones That rare event where tried and true Debian releases a new version. "This new version of Debian includes various interesting features such as multiarch support, several specific tools to deploy private clouds, an improved installer, and a complete set of multimedia codecs and front-ends which remove the need for third-party repositories. Multiarch support, one of the main release goals for 'Wheezy', will allow Debian users to install packages from multiple architectures on the same machine. This means that you can now, for the first time, install both 32- and 64-bit software on the same machine and have all the relevant dependencies correctly resolved, automatically."
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Wow, still Gnome 3.4
by MacMan on Mon 6th May 2013 00:22 UTC
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Member since:
2006-11-19

It took until 3.6 for Gnome to start to suck less. What's they're to gain by sticking with such a buggy version like 3.4 when 3.6 is finally sucks less and 3.8 is actually almost usable.

Also, what's what's to be gained with Linux. 3.2 when there have been so many improvements in 3.4 - 3.8?

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RE: Wow, still Gnome 3.4
by gan17 on Mon 6th May 2013 01:03 in reply to "Wow, still Gnome 3.4"
gan17 Member since:
2008-06-03

Also, what's what's to be gained with Linux. 3.2 when there have been so many improvements in 3.4 - 3.8?

People were saying similar things when Debian 6.0 got released as well. If memory serves, I think they released 6.0 with 2.6.32, and some folk were disappointed because there was some SSD-specific feature in 2.6.33 or .34 (I think it was TRIM support).

Most people should really run Testing (and backports) if they want anything even close to recent with Debian. The Stable releases are really for the moss-grown servers that have been up since the first Woodstock.

Anyways, congrats to the Debian team.
My condolences to Sid users who'll soon suffer massive trauma once the frozen repos thaw out and bucketloads of borkage head their way.

Edited 2013-05-06 01:04 UTC

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RE[2]: Wow, still Gnome 3.4
by yahya on Mon 6th May 2013 22:01 in reply to "RE: Wow, still Gnome 3.4"
yahya Member since:
2007-03-29

For me, the difference is, that even though the GNOME version shipped with Debian Squeeze was dated at the time of release, it was not quite as dated, but what's more relevant than that: It was incredibly usable. I found GNOME 2.32 to be a very mature, elegant and user-friendly desktop.

I have been using Debian on the desktop since 1999 or so. Most of the time I used GNOME as my default desktop, and Squeeze was certainly my favourite release. Compared to that, GNOME 3.4 feels rather incomplete. It takes away more functionality than it provides. E.g. I really regret loosing all my panel applets, loosing the ability to use Compiz with GNOME. I hate the solid black of the panel. I can't understand why anyone would find this elegant. GNOME 3.4 feels half-baked. GNOME 3.8 by contrast is much more snappy, it is faster, more mature, offers more functionality.

While I stayed with squeeze until shortly before the release of wheezy, I think I won't stay long with wheezy, I'll probably upgrade to Jessie as soon as it has stabilized a bit.

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RE[2]: Wow, still Gnome 3.4
by gfolkert on Tue 7th May 2013 13:10 in reply to "RE: Wow, still Gnome 3.4"
gfolkert Member since:
2008-12-15

To late 211 updates so far today.

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RE: Wow, still Gnome 3.4
by Peter Besenbruch on Mon 6th May 2013 05:54 in reply to "Wow, still Gnome 3.4"
Peter Besenbruch Member since:
2006-03-13

It took until 3.6 for Gnome to start to suck less. What's they're to gain by sticking with such a buggy version like 3.4 when 3.6 is finally sucks less and 3.8 is actually almost usable.


It depends on the version available when Debian freezes. I don't use Gnome, but I suspect that version 3.4 has had most of the bugs worked out of it.

Also, people who use Debian for a desktop tend to keep certain items up to date. I run Wheezy, but am also running XFCE 4.10. For Iceweasel, I am running version 20. For LibreOffice I run 4.0.3.

Also, what's what's to be gained with Linux. 3.2 when there have been so many improvements in 3.4 - 3.8?


What's to be gained? Stability and long term support. Drivers from later kernel versions also tend to migrate into version 3.2. Later kernels and versions of Xorg will migrate into Wheezy via backports.

No, I run a stable and up to date desktop with Debian Wheezy, but you do need to know your way around.

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RE[2]: Wow, still Gnome 3.4
by judgen on Mon 6th May 2013 09:52 in reply to "RE: Wow, still Gnome 3.4"
judgen Member since:
2006-07-12

Kernel 3.9 is coming to trunk for experimental. 3.8 is screaming fast on this machine, but there is a header missmatch in 3.8-trunk so i can not get vmware workstation up and running so i still have 3.2 up and about for now.

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