Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 6th May 2013 20:17 UTC
Graphics, User Interfaces "Adobe first launched Creative Suite 1 back in 2003, and now, ten years and six versions later, the company is taking a left turn: Adobe is abandoning its Creative Suite entirely to focus efforts on Creative Cloud."
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finally free of Windows?
by project_2501 on Mon 6th May 2013 20:52 UTC
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Does this mean the apps will work through a model browser of any brand - firefox, chrome, safari, ie, opera, .. ?

Does this mean I can finally use the excellent apps without having to have Windows or MacOS .. as long as the broswer is suitably modern and capable?

Is yes, and yes .. well, yay!

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RE: finally free of Windows?
by phoenix on Mon 6th May 2013 21:01 in reply to "finally free of Windows?"
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No. This means you can no longer walk into a store, grab a box off the shelf, pay for it once, and use it until the end of time. Now, you have to go to the Adobe website, put in a credit card number, and pay $30 / month in order to use any/all of the Creative Cloud apps. Still need Windows/Mac OS X; these are not new apps, just a new way to pay for using them. ;)

IOW, instead of paying $500-odd upfront to "own" and use the app forever, you now pay $30 every month for the privilege of continuing to be able to use the apps on your computer.

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WorknMan Member since:

IOW, instead of paying $500-odd upfront to "own" and use the app forever, you now pay $30 every month for the privilege of continuing to be able to use the apps on your computer.

Yup, for better or worse, this is the direction the industry is going, for both apps and games. The main criticism against DRM in general is that it never prevented piracy and only inconvenienced legitimate consumers. However, with more and more of the code going server-side, this will no longer be a viable argument. The most you could do is hack somebody else's account, and even that couldn't be done on a wide scale.

Not that I like it any more than anyone else, but I kind of see their point. It's a win-win situation for them. Not only can they stop piracy, but they also have more direct control over what machines legitimate purchasers can run the software on.

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lucas_maximus Member since:

TBH Creative Suite got pirated to hell, not surprised they are doing this.

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henderson101 Member since:

If you are a creative who will blindly upgrade every release to the latest CC, this is actually a really good deal. For everyone else, it sucks balls.

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RE: finally free of Windows?
by Parry Hotter on Mon 6th May 2013 21:04 in reply to "finally free of Windows?"
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Meh, looks like it's the same old Win/Mac software, only subscription based and distributed online.

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project_2501 Member since:

reason I ask is the following from Adobe gave me hope...

"We believe that we're now collectively hitting a tipping point where the web is now ready for a generation of tools and services that help build the future of HTML5, CSS, and JavaScript web," said David Wadhwani, general manager of Adobe's digital media business unit, at the MAX keynote.

(from the register

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RE[2]: finally free of Windows?
by hhas on Tue 7th May 2013 10:51 in reply to "RE: finally free of Windows?"
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Of course it's the same software. We're talking millions of lines of code (PS alone has 4.5M) and many many millions of man hours over 20 years. Adobe aren't about to magically poof that vast investment into HTML5 just to be trendy. The Web != HTML, contrary to what Mosaic and its many blighted descendents would have you behave. The Web is merely a mechanism for exchanging resources of every shape and kind; the only constant is hyperlinking as the means of discovering those resources.

All that's changed at this point is the distribution model, and while the primary motive is obviously financial (steadier income flow and [hopefully] less piracy) it may provide some user benefits too, e.g. smaller, more frequent rolling releases of new features and fewer hassles when exchanging files with others (not least since Adobe themselves won't be motivated to screw about with file versioning simply to drive sales).

In the long run it's harder to predict how this'll all play out, and who will win and who will lose. For example, decoupling revenue stream from shrinkwrapped product might encourage Adobe and other 'big app' vendors to evolve their unassailably monolithic products into a more flexible component-based platform, allowing users to customize their apps by adding/purchasing just the features they need from Adobe and/or 3rd-parties. Alternatively, it might kill competition by discouraging customers from purchasing individual apps from other vendors when their Adobe subscription means they're then effectively paying twice for the same general functionality, in which case expect to see antitrust suits raised before long.

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