Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 6th May 2013 20:17 UTC
Graphics, User Interfaces "Adobe first launched Creative Suite 1 back in 2003, and now, ten years and six versions later, the company is taking a left turn: Adobe is abandoning its Creative Suite entirely to focus efforts on Creative Cloud."
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RE: GIMP
by Nelson on Mon 6th May 2013 23:53 UTC in reply to "GIMP"
Nelson
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2005-11-29

How is making the Adobe suite cheaper and more accessible to all users going to help GIMP? This is a significantly cheaper option, for tools that are astronomically better.

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RE[2]: GIMP
by phoenix on Tue 7th May 2013 00:07 in reply to "RE: GIMP"
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2005-07-11

How is making the Adobe suite cheaper and more accessible to all users going to help GIMP? This is a significantly cheaper option, for tools that are astronomically better.


Well, that really depends on which apps you use and how long you use a specific version. If you use enough of the products to warrant the Suite, using it for 2 years is the same price as buying it outright ($720 US). Use it for more than 2, and you're paying a lot more than current pricing.

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RE[3]: GIMP
by orestes on Tue 7th May 2013 01:10 in reply to "RE[2]: GIMP"
orestes Member since:
2005-07-06

No you aren't. The $50 per month package is a superset of CS6 Master Collection (lists for $2,599). To get to the point that the sub would cost more than outright buying it would take more than four and a quarter years, even if you discount the fact the Creative Cloud gives you apps you wouldn't have access to in the Master Collection. From that perspective it's a fantastic deal.

Where you get screwed over is if you want to go ala carte on one or two of the programs without going all in.

Edited 2013-05-07 01:11 UTC

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RE[2]: GIMP
by TM99 on Tue 7th May 2013 06:25 in reply to "RE: GIMP"
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2012-08-26

Except, it really isn't cheaper. At best, it is the same pricing.

A stand alone copy of Photoshop CS6 is around $600.00 retail. I own the DVD, and I can use the software theoretically forever. As long as I have the hardware and OS version, I can use it.

Now, I can 'rent' Photoshop CS7 for $19.99 a month. In three years, it will be the same price as if I bought it outright. By then CS8 will be out, and I will just start the whole thing all over again.

So yes, if I am someone who updates my version of Photoshop every time Adobe releases it, then it is the exact same pricing. But if I am not a big company or a pro-sumer who does that, then yes, this is not cheaper per se. I don't own the software. What if CS8 requires Windows OS 8.x and Mac OS XI as the minimum system requirements. The added costs now become the hardware and the OS needed to run the next 'cloud app' version Adobe will 'rent' me.

GIMP continues to get better with each iteration. It is roughly equivalent now to Photoshop 7 or CS1. I can combine that with an older physical copy of Photoshop from 7 up to CS6 (with the addition of countless shapes, brushes, and other plugins), and I will have saved myself significant costs PLUS I own the software outright PLUS I decide when I want to upgrade my systems PLUS I can do just as professional work as someone on CS7.

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RE[2]: GIMP
by Valhalla on Tue 7th May 2013 08:35 in reply to "RE: GIMP"
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2006-01-24

How is making the Adobe suite cheaper and more accessible to all users going to help GIMP?

Because I dare say the vast majority of Photoshop 'users' today are running a pirated version of Photoshop.

For amateurs/hobbyists who only use a very small subset of the features Photoshop offers, they can likely get those features from free applications.

If they can no longer pirate Photoshop a huge amount of these users will not find Photoshop worth the asking price and will turn elsewhere, possibly to Gimp.

Photoshop will remain the de facto choice amongst professionals, as it should be in my opinion given that it is the best software of it's type and have no real rival either from other commercial offerings nor from open source.

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RE[3]: GIMP
by arpan on Tue 7th May 2013 11:22 in reply to "RE[2]: GIMP"
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2006-07-30

Piracy will continue. The apps still need to be downloaded from the net and installed on your computer. The only difference is that the activation is verified online every few days instead of just once when you install. So, if the activation is cracked (as it always is), pirates will continue without any problems.

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RE[3]: GIMP
by orestes on Tue 7th May 2013 17:05 in reply to "RE[2]: GIMP"
orestes Member since:
2005-07-06

To hell with pirates, if they get shafted in this deal consider it a well earned bonus. Mostly what this is about is giving Adobe a more consistent revenue stream from it's legitimate customers.

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RE[2]: GIMP
by Jondice on Tue 7th May 2013 13:51 in reply to "RE: GIMP"
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2006-09-20

Also, this may be news to you, but a lot of people aren't always using legit copies.

I think rather than switch to GIMP in the short term, these people will keep on using the "old" CS versions for years.

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RE[3]: GIMP
by TM99 on Tue 7th May 2013 15:05 in reply to "RE[2]: GIMP"
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2012-08-26

I had missed this tidbit, but apparently Adobe already took done activation servers for CS1 and CS2. Now they put up links for downloadable copies that have serials that don't require activation BUT you are not supposed to use them unless you already owned the product.

For some kid or mom who really only needs ACDSee or Elements at best, that is fine. But if I was a semi-pro users that is disturbing.

Will Adobe eventually remove activation service for all past versions of the Creative Suite except for the current Creative Cloud one?

At that point, yes, GIMP is starting to look better and better. I personally have used it for some time and it is on par with at least Photoshop 7 which I also still use because of the plugin support. Between those two on XP Mode on a Windows 7 x64 Pro workstation with 16GB of RAM, I am fine for any semi-pro graphics manipulation I might need. For me, it is my photography. For my wife, it is digital art and graphics design for other small businesses in our market segment.

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RE[3]: GIMP
by lucas_maximus on Wed 8th May 2013 01:32 in reply to "RE[2]: GIMP"
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2009-08-18

Sorry but GIMP is utter garbage. While it maybe the only free alternative, doesn't mean it is worth while.

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