Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 7th May 2013 13:38 UTC
Hardware, Embedded Systems News of the year in the technology industry. "The Fit's most important spec its display, with a nod to Sony's TV division: they come with 1600x900 or 1920x1080 touchscreens and nothing else. 'We're not going to offer 1366x768," reps said. 'We've killed that.'" This is Sony's new, simplified entry-level notebook line. Very, very welcome news in a world where even a supposedly "Pro" laptop that costs $1199 ships with... A 1280x800 resolution. This bottom-of-the-barrel crap needs to be eradicated, and good on Sony for taking this step.
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Sad news to me.
by JPisini on Tue 7th May 2013 14:19 UTC
JPisini
Member since:
2006-01-24

That is great news for all the people with perfect vision, I went out and specifically bought a laptop with 1366x768 because it is easier to read on. So this means I won't be buying any Sonys in the near future.

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RE: Sad news to me.
by Chrispynutt on Tue 7th May 2013 14:22 in reply to "Sad news to me."
Chrispynutt Member since:
2012-03-14

Well if the OS vendors got resolution independence sorted pixel size wouldn't matter.

In fact the text would be sharper and less fuzzy, rather than smaller.

An iPhone 4 doesn't have smaller text or icons than a 3GS, just sharper.

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RE[2]: Sad news to me.
by Nelson on Tue 7th May 2013 14:27 in reply to "RE: Sad news to me."
Nelson Member since:
2005-11-29

Windows Blue is getting automatic DPI scaling which should help on the Desktop side of things with resolution independence. The Metro side already scales rather well, afaik.

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RE: Sad news to me.
by Thom_Holwerda on Tue 7th May 2013 14:26 in reply to "Sad news to me."
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

Uh, just increase the dpi.

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RE[2]: Sad news to me.
by latreides on Wed 8th May 2013 19:29 in reply to "RE: Sad news to me."
latreides Member since:
2011-03-20

This seems counter productive. Buy a high resolution screen so you can mimic a lower resolution screen...

The penalties (power, cost, cpu/gpu, etc...) to render a higher resolution and pretend its a lower resolution are not worth the trade off. As far as I am concerned its a one sided relationship where there is heavy cost with no gain. If I were a PC gamer, or a graphic artist that goes gaga over smoother fonts, I may have a different opinion, but I am neither and I enjoy reasonable size interface elements.

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RE: Sad news to me.
by WorknMan on Tue 7th May 2013 14:47 in reply to "Sad news to me."
WorknMan Member since:
2005-11-13

That is great news for all the people with perfect vision, I went out and specifically bought a laptop with 1366x768 because it is easier to read on.


Ha, I had the same reaction at first. But I doubt too many people like us who have crappy vision are buying laptops in the first place. We're probably too small of a minority to really matter.

On my desktop, I run at a very odd resolution of 1152 x 864. That's as small as I can make things and still be able to see.

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RE[2]: Sad news to me.
by JPisini on Tue 7th May 2013 17:37 in reply to "RE: Sad news to me."
JPisini Member since:
2006-01-24

"That is great news for all the people with perfect vision, I went out and specifically bought a laptop with 1366x768 because it is easier to read on.


Ha, I had the same reaction at first. But I doubt too many people like us who have crappy vision are buying laptops in the first place. We're probably too small of a minority to really matter.

On my desktop, I run at a very odd resolution of 1152 x 864. That's as small as I can make things and still be able to see.
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You are probably right we don't matter. I like having a laptop for a few different reasons and spend much more time on it than a desktop.

Thom I have tried changing DPI but most times it makes things fuzzy and I have enough issues seeing the screen without adding fuzz.

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RE: Sad news to me.
by Laurence on Tue 7th May 2013 15:11 in reply to "Sad news to me."
Laurence Member since:
2007-03-26

Just because a screen is capable of running at 1920x1080, it doesn't mean that you have to run it at that resolution. With without altering the DPI, you can just drop the resolution down to a more comfortable size.

It's really no different to any other piece of hardware you buy that you don't always run at maximum settings (I don't drive everywhere at 200 kilometers an hour just because my car can reach those speeds).

To be honest, this should be common sense to anyone tech-savvy enough to frequent OSN.

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RE[2]: Sad news to me.
by brion on Tue 7th May 2013 15:36 in reply to "RE: Sad news to me."
brion Member since:
2010-11-04

Running an LCD panel at a lower-than-standard resolution tends to give a fuzzier-looking picture, especially for text.

Bumping up the font size to give the equivalent "screen space" as a lower resolution without the fuzies is possible, but tends to be inconsistent in how well apps handle it.

For example, I've got the Dell XPS 13 'Sputnik 2' (Ubuntu 12.04) with a 1080p panel; I often run it at native 1080p but with the font sizes scaled up to 150%, which gives the same screen space as a 1280x720 screen but is *much* sharper.

Unfortunately current Linux desktop environments aren't smart enough to handle different font sizes on different screens, so when attaching an external 1080p monitor I have to crank the font size back down to 100% and switch the internal panel to a lower, fuzzier resolution to get physical sizes to match to my satisfaction.

What I really want is fully scalable 'retina display' layout for Linux.... we'll see what comes through with all the Wayland changes. ;)

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RE[2]: Sad news to me.
by abraxas on Thu 9th May 2013 23:19 in reply to "RE: Sad news to me."
abraxas Member since:
2005-07-07

Just because a screen is capable of running at 1920x1080, it doesn't mean that you have to run it at that resolution. With without altering the DPI, you can just drop the resolution down to a more comfortable size.

It's really no different to any other piece of hardware you buy that you don't always run at maximum settings (I don't drive everywhere at 200 kilometers an hour just because my car can reach those speeds).

To be honest, this should be common sense to anyone tech-savvy enough to frequent OSN.


There is one major difference. LCD screens, which dominate the market now, have exactly ONE native resolution. If you run a different resolution everything is fuzzy. The solution is resolution independence not changing the resolution.

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RE: Sad news to me.
by jessesmith on Tue 7th May 2013 22:13 in reply to "Sad news to me."
jessesmith Member since:
2010-03-11

My vision isn't great and I welcome the higher resolution. It's pretty easy to adjust the font size and it's always possible to lower the screen resolution. You don't have to use the monitor's max resolution if you don't want it. This move by Sony is great for those who want higher resolutions and will have zero affect on people with poor vision.

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RE[2]: Sad news to me.
by Yoko_T on Wed 8th May 2013 00:01 in reply to "RE: Sad news to me."
Yoko_T Member since:
2011-08-18

My vision isn't great and I welcome the higher resolution. It's pretty easy to adjust the font size and it's always possible to lower the screen resolution. You don't have to use the monitor's max resolution if you don't want it. This move by Sony is great for those who want higher resolutions and will have zero affect on people with poor vision.


Yeah. Just like how Gnome3,Unity and Windows8 are great for those who want higher resolutions and have zero effect on people who want a computer that's actually usable.

Pinhead.

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