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Legal "The European Commission has accused Motorola Mobility of abusing its standard-essential patents against Apple in Germany. The Commission has sent a Statement of Objections to the company over a misuse of its GPRS patents, which has seen Motorola pursue injunctions against Apple products instead of properly licensing the technology."
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RE: Comment by shmerl
by majipoor on Tue 7th May 2013 22:19 UTC in reply to "Comment by shmerl"
majipoor
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2009-01-22

Too bad so many commenters are clueless and don't even understand what FRAND patents are all about and why abusing them is far worse for the consumer than anything Apple did with their (non-FRAND) patents.

Edited 2013-05-07 22:23 UTC

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RE[2]: Comment by shmerl
by Nelson on Tue 7th May 2013 22:35 in reply to "RE: Comment by shmerl"
Nelson Member since:
2005-11-29

Agreed. People let their Microsoft/Apple hate crowd out their common sense some times.

The abuse of FRAND patents is the single most destructive thing that could happen to software. It will blow the entire thing up. You'd make every standard which falls under a FRAND promise unsafe if Motorola were allowed to set precedent and seek injunctions over FRAND patents.

I don't think you want Motorola, or Samsung, or anyone else for that matter being able to sue anyone into oblivion over a WiFi, or an LTE patent or something.

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RE[3]: Comment by shmerl
by shmerl on Wed 8th May 2013 03:23 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by shmerl"
shmerl Member since:
2010-06-08

The abuse of FRAND patents is the single most destructive thing that could happen to software.


You got it wrong. The abuse of patents is the most destructive thing that could happen to software. Whether they are FRAND or not doesn't really matter for those against whom these patents are abused.

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RE[3]: Comment by shmerl
by tonny on Thu 9th May 2013 01:20 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by shmerl"
tonny Member since:
2011-12-22

..And err patent for 'regtangle' too. What kind of patent we call that one? :p

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RE[2]: Comment by shmerl
by shmerl on Wed 8th May 2013 03:22 in reply to "RE: Comment by shmerl"
shmerl Member since:
2010-06-08

Where did Google abuse FRAND patents against anyone besides Apple? I'm not fond of Google retaining Motorola patent litigation, but I'm OK with Google doing it against Apple who is the notorious aggressor. If there is some case when Google pushes these patents on others (not in defense against aggression), then I'd agree that it is much worse.

Edited 2013-05-08 03:24 UTC

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RE[3]: Comment by shmerl
by Nelson on Wed 8th May 2013 03:54 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by shmerl"
Nelson Member since:
2005-11-29

Uh, Google tried to extract unbelievable amounts of money from Microsoft in Germany and in the USA using FRAND patents which landed them in hot water in the US.

Its not specifically about Google or Apple or Microsoft, its about the precedent it'd set for all holders of FRAND patents. It'd make their commitments worthless and open the door to increased litigation around vital standards.

You'd be giving the likes of the MPEG-LA unbelievable power at the expense of spiting Apple. You've gone off the deep end.

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