Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 15th May 2013 21:46 UTC
Google "Wired has obtained a copy of a cease and desist letter sent by Google to Microsoft today, demanding Microsoft immediately remove the YouTube app from its Windows Phone Store and disable existing copies on consumers' devices by May 22. The YouTube app for Windows Phone - developed by Microsoft not Google - strips out ads and allows downloading, both violations of YouTube's terms of service." Incredibly petty. Just come up with a solution, you bunch of kids.
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RE[2]: Comment by Nelson
by Nelson on Wed 15th May 2013 23:14 UTC in reply to "RE: Comment by Nelson"
Nelson
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2005-11-29


Eh what? Obviously Google won't let Microsoft, a competitor which has harassed Google as much as they possibly can, officially ship a Youtube viewer which strips ads which is what Youtube (and content providers who upload to Youtube) is funded through.


Microsoft can and is willing to provide ads in the app, as it has been trying to get Google to allow them to write a YouTube app since 2010.


And obviously neither would Microsoft had the tables been turned, of course then you would have switched viewpoint in a heartbeat.


I'm against Microsoft breaking the ToS and screwing over content users (albeit in a small way, the app has been out for like two weeks), I'm just telling the complete story.


Compared to Microsoft they are certainly still a poster kid for open standards, not that this particular comparison says much.


So do you admit that they were wrong to kill of CalDAV in favor of their own proprietary API? Or kill off ActiveSync, provide no competing IMAP push solution, and continue to use their proprietary Gmail API from iOS and Android (while providing no alternative to Windows Phone).

Look, I have no problem with them leaving Gmail sync out, there are plenty of alternatives. YouTube is defacto and used by people in a way that which transcends platforms.

People like you conveniently ignore that.


Youtube is not an 'open standard', Google doesn't owe Microsoft anything, certainly not access to Youtube through Windows Phone, a competing product from a company which is patent trolling Google's products.


They hurt Microsoft, but they fuck over Windows Phone users which may coincidentally use Google Services.

What I was speaking to, is how some of the usual suspects on OSNews sang Google praises (much like you do now) when they axed EAS under the guise of open standards. People like me correctly labeled it as bullshit.

We're in a similar situation, Google is using content creators as a crutch to advance what is an anti-Microsoft retaliatory campaign. Which is fine, alls fair and all that, but its wrong when people like you make excuses for them on false pretenses.

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RE[3]: Comment by Nelson
by JAlexoid on Thu 16th May 2013 18:09 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by Nelson"
JAlexoid Member since:
2009-05-19

I'm just telling the complete story.

I'm sorry, but adding a "few" bits and pieces here and there that are not based in fact is not "complete story". At least it's not factual outside of your own head.

YouTube is defacto and used by people in a way that which transcends platforms.

So? m.youtube.com

kill off ActiveSync

And you don't mind lying? I mean... you like to "tell the complete story, don't you?

axed EAS under the guise of open standards

I'm sorry... that move forced Microsoft to implement Cal and Card DAV. I don't care how Google did it, but I have the option of owning a WP device that will sync with my private Cal and Card DAV server.

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RE[3]: Comment by Nelson
by Valhalla on Fri 17th May 2013 12:27 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by Nelson"
Valhalla Member since:
2006-01-24


I'm against Microsoft breaking the ToS and screwing over content users (albeit in a small way, the app has been out for like two weeks), I'm just telling the complete story.

LOL, complete story my ass. You are telling Microsoft's 'story', which is that it's ok for Microsoft to break other companies ToS because they pretend they have some inherent right other companies services, which is the worst hypocricy I've ever come across given Microsoft's history of locking services to their own platform(s).


So do you admit that they were wrong to kill of CalDAV in favor of their own proprietary API?

I think it sucks that they are going for a proprietary solution, I hope it comes back to bite them.

Or kill off ActiveSync,

Why would I give a crap about them ditching ActiveSync? It's just another non-open licence-laden Microsoft offering.

some of the usual suspects on OSNews sang Google praises (much like you do now)

Am I singing their praises? Were exactly am I doing that?

but its wrong when people like you make excuses for them on false pretenses.

What false pretenses? Like I said, Google has no reason (unless they are aiming for sainthood) to support a competitive platform from a company which is rabidly attacking them through smear campaigns (scroogled, #droidrage, etc) aswell as patent extortion and even attempts at anti-trust lawsuits.

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