Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 15th May 2013 21:46 UTC
Google "Wired has obtained a copy of a cease and desist letter sent by Google to Microsoft today, demanding Microsoft immediately remove the YouTube app from its Windows Phone Store and disable existing copies on consumers' devices by May 22. The YouTube app for Windows Phone - developed by Microsoft not Google - strips out ads and allows downloading, both violations of YouTube's terms of service." Incredibly petty. Just come up with a solution, you bunch of kids.
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UltraZelda64
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2006-12-05

I mean, I've got NoScript, AdBlock Plus, DoNotTrackMe and VideoDownloadHelper installed on my primary web browser, as well as all third-party cookies disabled and the "do not track" header on just to get the point across. So really, that shows how much of a rat's ass I give about so-called "terms of service" and advertising scumbags--er, I mean, industry. And while I surely wouldn't have a problem with a program coming with my phone allowing me to bypass ads and download videos (in fact, that is just the kind of thing I would actively seek myself), at the same time that kind of thing coming from a major corporation like Microsoft doesn't exactly set a good example.

Aren't they effectively saying that things like TOS and EULAs are worthless; that they are meant to be broken? I mean, if such a massive corporation does it against their competitors using their two or three Windows Phone users to deal the fatal blow, then does that give Google or just any other company the "right" to do it back to them using their army of millions of Android users? After all, Microsoft clearly doesn't seem to care about another company's terms of service and chose not to obey them--and Microsoft itself is even cashing in on Android sales thanks to obscene patent scares.

What would they think if I started using "non-genuine" copies of Windows and explicitly tried to do everything their EULA expressly forbids? Something tells me they wouldn't be a very happy company, and there would be some serious shit going on in the U.S. courtrooms. They're not exactly setting a good example for themselves. For every attempt they make to try to do something right to win people over, they prove that in the end they are the same crooked mega corporation that was slapped with an U.S. anti-trust lawsuit in the 1990s and subsequently watched under a magnifying glass by the EU once their own country pussied out.

Edited 2013-05-15 23:58 UTC

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Nelson Member since:
2005-11-29

Google provides YouTube on the Xbox 360 with Ads.
http://allthingsd.com/20120828/youtubes-ad-overhaul-moves-on-to-xbo...

This is about Google wanting to suppress Windows Phone, which has anti competitive undertones, in fact I think Microsoft has already lodged a complaint.

And I agree that Microsoft going against the ToS was heavy handed and wrong, but Microsoft just made a statement saying something to the effect of (very loose paraphrasing)"We'd love to work with Google to get the documentation needed to provide ads".

Hook, line, and sinker they turned this from a private backroom wheeling and dealing into something that the PR people can trade barbs over.

I think Microsoft has an easy sell convincing people they're right on this issue, maybe not on this site because this is OSNews but the average person would be pretty pissed if they knew the only reason they don't have a kick ass WP YouTube app is because Google is actively subverting that effort.

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UltraZelda64 Member since:
2006-12-05

What? Google wanting to suppress Windows Phone? Subverting the effort of making a decent Windows Phone? I'm sorry, but what is happening looks nothing of the sort. That sounds more like some sort of outrageous conspiracy theory or something. Google has stated that Windows Phone and Windows 8/Metro are just not big enough targets to support. That's a good enough, honest and fair answer.

Then Microsoft comes in trampling their TOS. And then you come in, seem to turn everything around, and make it out like Google is the "bad guy" doing all the monopolistic, illegal moves. Hey, they don't have to support basically stillborn operating systems that have yet to take off if they don't want to. I don't think I can buy that claim. Android is winning since it came in at just the right time and was strongly embraced; Windows Phone has been floundering since birth.

This just seems to me like Microsoft playing their crooked games as usual. I still take Microsoft's subliminal message to be a bit closer to "fuck you, Google, take this--just try to piss us off again. We'll just play rough. Break a few more laws." It's probably Ballmer's Round Two after the whole chair incident.

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