Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 17th May 2013 23:35 UTC, submitted by kragil
Google Ars nails it: "The answer is that Google did announce what amounts to a fairly substantial Android update yesterday. They simply did it without adding to the update fragmentation problems that continue to plague the platform. By focusing on these changes and not the apparently-waiting-in-the-wings update to the core software, Google is showing us one of the ways in which it's trying to fix the update problem."
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Hiding the problem...
by Ithamar on Sat 18th May 2013 06:37 UTC
Ithamar
Member since:
2006-03-20

This so called solution will still leave many devices with known vulnerabilities and other security issues...
The only real motivation to do this is regain some control on Android by making AOSP a "demo" version of Android with all real new improvements hidden away in the closed-source, Google sauce components.

So much for an "open platform"..... ;)

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RE: Hiding the problem...
by darknexus on Sat 18th May 2013 08:32 in reply to "Hiding the problem..."
darknexus Member since:
2008-07-15

Unavoidable I'm afraid. Google has finally realized that while open source is excellent for academia and research projects, once you want to actually make money from it you're in hot water as any person or company can take your code, modify it, and benefit from it without giving a damn thing back to you. And don't go on about the GPL, there are plenty of ways around that one too if you're motivated, and cash is one hell of a motivator. Like it or not, Google is a business. They need to profit from projects eventually, and so far Google themselves haven't made much from Android. Can't really blame them for wanting to turn that around. No money, no more Android.

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RE[2]: Hiding the problem...
by rklrkl on Sat 18th May 2013 08:55 in reply to "RE: Hiding the problem..."
rklrkl Member since:
2005-07-06

> ... once you want to actually make money from it you're in hot water as any person or company can take your code, modify it, and benefit from it without giving a damn thing back to you.

I suspect Red Hat would disagree with you on this one. There's several free clones (why I don't know - you only need one surely?) of RHEL such as CentOS, Scientific Linux, Oracle Linux etc. and yet Red Hat makes a very healthy profit.

> And don't go on about the GPL, there are plenty of ways around that one too if you're motivated, and cash is one hell of a motivator.

Nice to you see you don't care about any legal aspects and it should be noted that GPL is actually enforced legally (and extremely successfully - I don't know of any case where it lost, but I couldn't be wrong there).

> and so far Google themselves haven't made much from Android.

Except for the advertising revenue and, er, 30% of all Android app sales. That's probably quite a big pile there.

I think if you quoted Canonical as struggling for money, you might have had a better case - Ubunutu's download page now comes with a donation beg and the Amazon lens tie-up just smells of sellout/desperation.

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RE[2]: Hiding the problem...
by tidux on Sat 18th May 2013 16:06 in reply to "RE: Hiding the problem..."
tidux Member since:
2011-08-13

It's called the GPL. If Android had licensed Android as GPLv2 instead of Apache, we wouldn't be having these problems.

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RE[2]: Hiding the problem...
by Fergy on Sat 18th May 2013 17:50 in reply to "RE: Hiding the problem..."
Fergy Member since:
2006-04-10

Unavoidable I'm afraid. Google has finally realized that while open source is excellent for academia and research projects, once you want to actually make money from it you're in hot water as any person or company can take your code, modify it, and benefit from it without giving a damn thing back to you. And don't go on about the GPL, there are plenty of ways around that one too if you're motivated, and cash is one hell of a motivator. Like it or not, Google is a business. They need to profit from projects eventually, and so far Google themselves haven't made much from Android. Can't really blame them for wanting to turn that around. No money, no more Android.

Yeah completely open projects like Firefox apparently don't exit in your head. Also the money Google has made with Android don't exit in your head.

I wonder what Firefox OS will do. It is completely open like Firefox and smartphone makers can work on it at the same time as Mozilla. Fragmentation is also very hard to get when your platform is web+Firefox.

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