Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 18th May 2013 21:33 UTC
Google Why does Google get so much credit in the technology industry? Why, despite the company's many obvious failings, do many geeks and enthusiasts still hold a somewhat positive view on the all-knowing technology giant? A specific talk at Google I/O this week provides the answer.
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RE: Comment by marcp
by Vanders on Sun 19th May 2013 11:43 UTC in reply to "Comment by marcp"
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Hacker culture was [also] always about privacy, security and anonimity.

It was? Got any sources on that? Because the MIT AI lab was an incredibly open place with no sense of privacy and certainly no concept of anonymity. A direct example is ITS, the first "hacker" Operating System, which had no passwords and no directory permissions. This was a deliberate design decision as a reaction to the security systems that were designed into CTSS and Multics.

"Hacker culture" has always been about transparency and openness, both things that Google does or does not do to varying degrees.

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RE[2]: Comment by marcp
by marcp on Sun 19th May 2013 22:47 in reply to "RE: Comment by marcp"
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True. That's the history.

However, that was not my point. There is an enormously huge difference between transparency, privacy, security and "hiding something". You can be transparent and stay secure, private, not hiding anything "bad".

I understand current american way of thinking about these problems: some people really push the vision of "terrorism" and that "if you hide something then you're a terrorist, you're not TRANSPARENT". That's not othe point I make.

First hackers faced different problems. There was no internet, no "evil guys" lurking inside your multi-user lab machine. There was just he, me and couple of other collegues. They could just happily hack on the code.
They trusted each other, because they knew each other personally. That is not the case today.

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