Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 21st May 2013 21:38 UTC
Games At an event earlier today, Microsoft unveiled the next Xbox - the third model, but confusingly named Xbox One. The big focus was TV, integrated Kinect, and all the other stuff we all expected to be forced down our throats. I think it took them 25 minutes to actually come to what should be the core of the story: gaming. Nothing groundbreaking in the gaming department, except for how Microsoft intends to handle the used games market and borrowing games from friends: pay up, buddy!
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RE[2]: Comment by lucas_maximus
by lucas_maximus on Tue 21st May 2013 21:53 UTC in reply to "RE: Comment by lucas_maximus"
lucas_maximus
Member since:
2009-08-18

Chipping? Been around for ages in various forms.

http://www.xboxmb.com/forum/44-firmware-hack-tutorials/1965-flashin...

Every console so far has been able to be chipped via various methods. While at uni I made a lot of money actually chipping consoles (PSX and PS2).

We could do everything from play dodgy games to emulators of games on other platforms.

I don't do it anymore after I became a software developer and realized the amount of work required in making qualify software.

Edited 2013-05-21 21:56 UTC

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Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

You know quite well that's not what I meant. You claim there is massive amounts of console piracy. I'm asking you: show me the proof. The fact that you CAN chip a console is not proof of "massive amounts of piracy".

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lucas_maximus Member since:
2009-08-18

I can't show you proof because as you well know it isn't measurable by any official body.

I know that after living in 3 different countries I know that it does happen and it happens enough of the time that it maybe significant.

What you are asking me to prove is slightly anecdotal and a bit of a Russell's Teapot, and I accept that.

I am actually counting on you having a decent amount of common sense and have some trust in what I am saying.

Edited 2013-05-21 22:06 UTC

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RE[4]: Comment by lucas_maximus
by gan17 on Wed 22nd May 2013 01:05 in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by lucas_maximus"
gan17 Member since:
2008-06-03

...show me the proof. The fact that you CAN chip a console is not proof of "massive amounts of piracy".

Come down to Singapore. I'll drive you across the border into the southernmost Malaysian town where you'll be able to find any Xbox360 game for approximately $3.00US. In that country, you're considered an idiot for not getting a modded console. Heck, I think most of the stores don't even sell unmodded units.

...and no, I'm not going to bother driving all the way to take a pic as proof for you. Do it yourself, you first-world person.

Edited 2013-05-22 01:07 UTC

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pandronic Member since:
2006-05-18

Among my friends it's about 50% and I suspect the percent is bigger in my country since we're not kids and we all have decent paying jobs - 2nd world country.

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Kivada Member since:
2010-07-07

Piracy is an industry lie to get what laws they want to force out competition and cling to a dying buisness model.

https://secure.dslreports.com/shownews/Study-Estimates-of-Game-BitTo...

Ever hear of the $8 billion dollar iPod?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZadCj8O1-0

These companies could learn allot from Amanda Palmer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMj_P_6H69g

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tylerdurden Member since:
2009-03-17

People should also start by not using the term "piracy." It is a creepy corporate newspeak attempt at subverting and shaping reality; Making a digital copy, and taking to the seas for booty and plunder are not the same thing.

Also it is good to remember, that pirate/privateer/buccaneer ships and fleets during certain times and places were state sanctioned incorporated enterprises.

Accusations of "piracy" more often than not is an attempt at justifying pricing oneself out of a market.

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Bill Shooter of Bul Member since:
2006-07-14

Its not a bald faced lie, and its not to force out competition ( unless you believe that piracy is competition) , but yes they do use piracy as an excuse for why their business model is dying.

Its not dying because of piracy ( although its not helping), its dying because of the long tail. With a vast selection of content, everyone finds their own niche. With every one only paying attention to their niche, nothing gets super popular, and they can't benefit from economies of scale like they once did.

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timalot Member since:
2006-07-17

Trust me no one one wants to pirate your software.

Sorry I had to say that, you are being a mega troll.

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lucas_maximus Member since:
2009-08-18

Nobody wants to pirate my software because I write Bespoke Software :-)

Troll on OSNEWS == Doesn't agree with the hurd on here.

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