Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 21st May 2013 21:38 UTC
Games At an event earlier today, Microsoft unveiled the next Xbox - the third model, but confusingly named Xbox One. The big focus was TV, integrated Kinect, and all the other stuff we all expected to be forced down our throats. I think it took them 25 minutes to actually come to what should be the core of the story: gaming. Nothing groundbreaking in the gaming department, except for how Microsoft intends to handle the used games market and borrowing games from friends: pay up, buddy!
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RE[2]: Comment by lucas_maximus
by moondevil on Wed 22nd May 2013 07:03 UTC in reply to "RE: Comment by lucas_maximus"
moondevil
Member since:
2005-07-08

Buying games used is NOT piracy.


Check the articles in Games Developer Magazine, the industry is of another opinion.

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-pekr- Member since:
2006-03-28

Who the heck cares, what the industry thinks? If I buy something, it is mine, I paid for it. If I lend my book to my friend, I can't read it anymore. So ditto the analogy for the games - lending my game to a friend means, he can play it, I can't. But - the game has been paid for already.

Why should anyone care, if I sell my game I don't want to play anymore, to another friend, give it to him/her for free, or just throw it into the trash can?

All this licence, patents and similar crap should be eradicated from the planet Earth, as it is missused by the strong ones, having almost zero common sense in real life scenarios. And in the long run, whoever thinks will win against the common sense, will imo lose in the end ...

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RE[4]: Comment by lucas_maximus
by TM99 on Wed 22nd May 2013 08:28 in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by lucas_maximus"
TM99 Member since:
2012-08-26

I agree completely.

This and the rest of the software industry are the only fucking businesses that attempt this kind of bullshit.

Could you see Honda collecting a fee off of every person who sold their used Civic on Craigslist?

Could you see Doubleday collecting a fee off of every person who sold their used paperback Stephen King novel to a local bookstore?

How about Sony Records on every used CD sold at Tower Records?

Of course not! This is just pure greed plain and simple.

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Kochise Member since:
2006-03-03

Re-read the article. Then read it back, read it on one leg, change leg then read it again. Have you found the very clue that render Microsoft's decision absolutely valid AND coherent ?

IF (opposing two exclusive alternatives) user A lend the disk to user B, nothing prevent user B from playing the disk, while user A cannot (because of the physical absence of said disk).

If user A has installed the disk on the hard drive, thus giving user A unlimited access to disk's content while lending disk to user B, so that both users can play the disk AT THE SAME TIME : forbidden by Microsoft.

So where have you lost track of this little tiny nifty detail that, for some very strange reasons, I was able to locate amongst the surrounding words ?

Kochise

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jnemesh Member since:
2008-04-08

Well, I would refer them to the Supreme Court decision that reinforced the consumer's First Sale rights!

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Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

Oh but I don't think we should stop there. No sale of used goods of any kind should be allowed. No used cars, tv's, cd's, washing machines, computers, monitors etc etc and by jove, we can't have yard sales. All these things are like stealing from the companies that make new products. I'm certain we can get those disgruntled game developers behind this scheme. Right? Right?

What's that you say? It's different? Oh, you say that we should allow all these other used items because, basically, you buy them but not used games. I see....
Sorry Bubba, that's not how the world works. Grow up and be a man.

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