Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 22nd May 2013 13:38 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless "The Verge has learned that HTC's Chief Product Officer, Kouji Kodera, left the company last week. Kodera was responsible for HTC's overall product strategy, which makes the departure especially notable on the heels of the global launch of the make-or-break One. It's not just Kodera. In the past three-odd months, HTC has lost a number of employees in rapid succession." I really hope HTC pulls it together.
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RE[3]: It's simple
by Neolander on Thu 23rd May 2013 06:12 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: It's simple"
Neolander
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2010-03-08

And if your phone had 64-128GB of storage? Would you still need microsd?

I'm sure someone has said the same thing before about having more that 64KB of RAM in a computer. Anytime a "comfortable" computer resource threshold is set, software and technology finds a way to require more for perfectly reasonable reasons. After all, who doesn't want HD video on those gorgeous new screens?

Besides, phone manufacturers will always artificially inflate the price of onboard flash to insane levels, making MicroSD a more cost-conscious choice. And having a removable storage media can be pretty useful in a bunch of scenarios, such as backups or phone-phone and computer-phone data transfers.

Edited 2013-05-23 06:22 UTC

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RE[4]: It's simple
by majipoor on Thu 23rd May 2013 09:27 in reply to "RE[3]: It's simple"
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2009-01-22

"I'm sure someone has said the same thing before about having more that 64KB of RAM in a computer. Anytime a "comfortable" computer resource threshold is set, software and technology finds a way to require more for perfectly reasonable reasons."

Yes, but no one expected a 64KB RAM computer could be upgraded to a 4MB RAM computer: resources needs do actually increase over time, but new requirements are met with new generations of hardware, which seems quite reasonable.

One can expect a 4 years lifespan for smartphones and today, 64GB or 128GB seems enough for current generation of hardware.

Problem with SD used as memory extension is that if you store apps data on the card and then want to upload or access photos or music or whatever from another card within an app, you are in trouble. SD as memory extension is not a wise option IMHO. SD as a way to load or backup files may be useful, but there is other ways to get the same result.

Edited 2013-05-23 09:31 UTC

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RE[5]: It's simple
by Neolander on Fri 24th May 2013 05:44 in reply to "RE[4]: It's simple"
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2010-03-08

Indeed, I've also felt multiple times that the solution of storing important application data on the SD card instead of just using it as a dumb user data storage medium was a very bad idea.

But if you do not allow application data storage on the SD card, and only use it as a dumb medium to store downloads, pictures, videos, and music on, you should not fall into any trouble when unplugging the card. So in my opinion, the SD card itself is not necessarily to blame there.

A possible issue there is that sometimes, applications treat user documents which they act upon as private application data and store it accordingly. This is a bad software design practice that gets worryingly common these days, probably as a result of mobile OSs favoring app-centric usage paradigms over document-centric ones even when the latter makes a lot more sense. For media files, in my experience, hotplugging is still handled fine, however.

Anyway, if you store HD video on a mobile device, 64GB is relatively easily reached with a medium-sized media library. So unless we want to stay in the technological stone age of having to constantly delete and move data around from a desktop to a phone, it seems to me that memory extensions are still relevant.

I'd like to say that as with the desktop, the problem will mostly disappear by itself around the 250GB or 500GB storage node. But then again, I'm sure that someone will think of a way to make use of all the extra storage, such as by popularizing 4K video on tablets ;)

SD as a way to load or backup files may be useful, but there is other ways to get the same result.

If you are thinking of MTP data transfers there, the technology tends to be quite buggy on anything but Windows, probably since it has been developed by Microsoft for their Windows Media products.

Also, a number of devices tend to hide some of their internal storage when displaying internal memory, since they do not want to show system files, which is not a problem with MicroSD.

Edited 2013-05-24 05:55 UTC

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