Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 23rd May 2013 22:01 UTC
Google "In the midst of the major press blitz surrounding its annual I/O Conference, Google dropped some unfortunate news about its instant messaging plans. In several places around the web, the company is replacing the existing 'Talk' platform with a new one called 'Hangouts' that sharply diminishes support for the open messaging protocol known as XMPP (or sometimes informally Jabber), and also removes the option to disable the archiving of all chat communications. These changes represent a switch from open protocols to proprietary ones, and a clear step backward for many users." That's why I always say: only suckers trust companies.
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No clear way forward
by sb56637 on Fri 24th May 2013 13:33 UTC
sb56637
Member since:
2006-05-11

Well, this certainly stinks.

Looks like for the moment at least, Google still offers their XMPP service for connecting with Pidgin/Empathy/Kopete/whatever. So as long as they keep offering that I guess I'll keep using it. In reality, I've never met anybody in real life aside from a few geeks who uses any other Jabber server. I don't think I could get my friends to all switch over to another Jabber server either, since most of them use the Gmail web interface for chatting anyway.

Edited 2013-05-24 13:45 UTC

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RE: No clear way forward
by UltraZelda64 on Fri 24th May 2013 18:02 in reply to "No clear way forward"
UltraZelda64 Member since:
2006-12-05

Most XMPP servers I've found only require the following to register an account:

1. Desired username
2. Desired password
3. CAPTCHA (a minor annoyance more than anything)

No personally-identifying information whatsoever, not even an e-mail address. Of the people I know, most of them don't think twice about setting up an account unless real, personal information is required--and even then, they probably won't care in the end. I'll probably offer to set up an XMPP account on some currently undetermined server for my friends, asking if they want a specific username or if they just want one that matches the beginning of their e-mail address.

As far as difficulty of weaning them off of Google's native web-based IM clients... well, one quick install of Pidgin should change all of that. Its always-on, always hiding in the background, always ready nature might be different than having to go to a web page and waiting for a complex JavaScript program to load just for a quick chat session, but once people try a *real* instant messaging client I seriously doubt they'll be dying to go back. Anyone even remotely familiar with AIM's "Buddy List" should feel right at home.

Edited 2013-05-24 18:04 UTC

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RE[2]: No clear way forward
by zima on Fri 24th May 2013 19:39 in reply to "RE: No clear way forward"
zima Member since:
2005-07-06

OTOH I can imagine that plenty people dislike always-on nature of "a *real* instant messaging client" ...we have enough distractions already.

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