Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 25th May 2013 00:45 UTC
Google "So in summary... Google has pulled the plug on support on a protocol they've helped popularize, after years of promising interoperability, for reasons that are dubious at best, and in a way that leaves people who don't jump to the new Hangouts app unable to talk to their contacts without any feedback that their IMs aren't getting through... And they've done that with no warning to anyone. I imagine there's a bunch of people out there wondering where some of their buddies have gone, or why their messages aren't getting responses, because this isn't documented anywhere." Google really messed this up. Such a dick move.
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Comment by Soulbender
by Soulbender on Sat 25th May 2013 02:30 UTC
Soulbender
Member since:
2005-08-18

I imagine there's a bunch of people out there wondering where some of their buddies have gone, or why their messages aren't getting responses, because this isn't documented anywhere.


I imagine no-one cares since pretty much no-one is using gtalk or hangouts anyway.

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RE: Comment by Soulbender
by UltraZelda64 on Sat 25th May 2013 02:45 in reply to "Comment by Soulbender"
UltraZelda64 Member since:
2006-12-05

You have a good point. And those people who either are using a non-Google XMPP service or have an interest in open standards and open source/free software will find out soon (if they haven't already).

I'm in the process of abandoning Google Talk right now. Testing various XMPP services to find the "best" one to settle with. But luckily even if the first provider I end up with doesn't end up being the last, at least they will all be able to communicate between each other. Because Google Talk already has so many users I could almost live without federation, but the fact that (from how I understand it) they intend to remove XMPP compatibility to the point where eventually third-party clients will no longer work, that's the line right there. It's drawn, it's slowly being crossed... goodbye Google Talk/Hangouts.

Several of the people I know have yet to even given up on the Yahoo! Messenger service. Those people were too stubborn to convert to Google Talk in the first place, chances are high they'll be too stubborn to switch to anything else, and Google's changes won't even affect them.

Edited 2013-05-25 02:53 UTC

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RE: Comment by Soulbender
by ianm on Sat 25th May 2013 02:45 in reply to "Comment by Soulbender"
ianm Member since:
2010-08-16

Everyone I know with a Gmail address, which is almost everyone I know, uses gtalk to keep in touch. Hangouts has been a bit disruptive, but I imagine the rough edges will be smoothed off in short order. The inability to set a status on the hangout client is a pain in the ass.

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RE[2]: Comment by Soulbender
by WereCatf on Sat 25th May 2013 03:18 in reply to "RE: Comment by Soulbender"
WereCatf Member since:
2006-02-15

Everyone I know with a Gmail address, which is almost everyone I know, uses gtalk to keep in touch.


I've the complete opposite situation: I do not know a single person who even knew what gtalk is, let alone actually used it. Everyone uses either Facebook - chat, iChat or Skype.

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RE[2]: Comment by Soulbender
by ingraham on Sat 25th May 2013 05:48 in reply to "RE: Comment by Soulbender"
ingraham Member since:
2006-05-20

I am also in the camp of everyone I know using GTalk. We all have Android phones, and most of us still have unlimited data plans but not unlimited text plans. GTalk was the obvious answer, especially since we've all got GMail open when we're at our PCs. Skype is not nearly as universal, virtually none of my friends have iPhones, and I despise Facebook even more than Google. So who has recommendations for a messaging app NOT tied to Google, Facebook, MS, Apple, AOL, or Yahoo?

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RE: Comment by Soulbender
by historyb on Sat 25th May 2013 20:58 in reply to "Comment by Soulbender"
historyb Member since:
2005-07-06

I use it to call my family quite a lot

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RE: Comment by Soulbender
by Lennie on Sat 25th May 2013 21:28 in reply to "Comment by Soulbender"
Lennie Member since:
2007-09-22

I could be wrong, but I have a feeling hangouts will get a lot more use soon.

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