Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sun 26th May 2013 12:24 UTC
Linux "Today I pushed out a new ISO of my Wayland Live CD project, which is named for my favorite celebrity. For this new Wayland CD, I wrote a new login manager with Bash and Zenity and Expect (and Script) that fully runs on a Wayland server (weston). Now X is no longer involved in the boot process, and X does not start, (unless you use an X application with xwayland), because I replaced LightDM with the new loginmanager."
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RE: Wayland
by Savior on Tue 28th May 2013 12:17 UTC in reply to "Wayland"
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2006-09-02

This video shows nicely how big difference Wayland makes on Raspberry Pi: http://www.collabora.com/videos/rpi-wayland-demo-720p.webm


That's impressive, and I'd really like to think that Wayland will make such a difference; the current stack is a mess. However, I couldn't help but notice how he used two different distributions in the video, where the graphic server might not be the only difference. Also, he could have used composition under X as well, though I don't know how much difference would that have made.

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RE[2]: Wayland
by Liteon on Tue 28th May 2013 17:07 in reply to "RE: Wayland"
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2006-01-02

However, I couldn't help but notice how he used two different distributions in the video, where the graphic server might not be the only difference

I'm pretty sure it's the same distribution (Debian) but the desktop/graphics system is different. First he uses LXDM on Xorg and then desktop-shell (Weston module) on Weston/Wayland.

Edited 2013-05-28 17:13 UTC

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RE[2]: Wayland
by Gullible Jones on Thu 30th May 2013 14:21 in reply to "RE: Wayland"
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2006-05-23

The obvious effect in the video is because Wayland/Weston does compositing. In X11 without compositing, you get to see redraws all over the place. With compositing, no redraws. You can get the same results using 'xcompmgr -a' in X11.

I'll be more impressed if windows can resize smoothly with all the compositing effects. Window resizing on Linux has been terrible since GTK+ started using Cairo for everything.

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RE[3]: Wayland
by Liteon on Fri 31st May 2013 05:41 in reply to "RE[2]: Wayland"
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I'll be more impressed if windows can resize smoothly with all the compositing effects. Window resizing on Linux has been terrible since GTK+ started using Cairo for everything.

Hmmh, it would be interesting to know how big changes we should be expecting to rendering speeds with any graphics libraries / toolkits.

All I can say at the moment is that the rendering windows, tilting, zooming, etc. on my Atom is really fast (60fps) and without hiccups and tearing. Butter smooth.

Edited 2013-05-31 05:41 UTC

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