Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 29th May 2013 16:59 UTC
Apple At the D11 conference, Apple CEO Tim Cook once again took the stage to be interviewed by Walt Mossberg and Kara Swisher. While most of the interview can be replicated by picking and reading 10 random Apple fanblog stories - there were still a number of very interesting things that warrant some closer scrutiny.
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iTunes store on Android
by tessmonsta on Wed 29th May 2013 17:42 UTC
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2009-07-16

I think the obvious thing for them to do would be to make the iTunes store available on Android. Not the apps, of course, but the music and movie library would directly compete with Google's offerings. This would provide a pretty good revenue stream without the need to invest a great deal of effort.

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RE: iTunes store on Android
by jazman777 on Wed 29th May 2013 20:56 in reply to "iTunes store on Android"
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2013-02-27

I wonder if Apple could write apps for Android as well as they can write for Windows? /sarcasm

Edited 2013-05-29 21:00 UTC

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RE: iTunes store on Android
by krreagan on Thu 30th May 2013 02:35 in reply to "iTunes store on Android"
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2008-04-08

You have no clue what apples business model is all about.

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RE[2]: iTunes store on Android
by tessmonsta on Thu 30th May 2013 02:46 in reply to "RE: iTunes store on Android"
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2009-07-16

It seems to me that Apple's business model is to perpetuate themselves as a premium hardware company by producing designer computing and mobile device products with less (read cheaper) hardware specifications than the competition, and while utilizing walled application gardens to enforce planned obsolescence in order to create a recurring revenue stream. Meanwhile, leveraging subsidized iPhones as a gateway device for the uncertain or for those that cannot afford their premium PC devices.

At least, that's how it seems to me.

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RE[2]: iTunes store on Android
by galvanash on Thu 30th May 2013 04:08 in reply to "RE: iTunes store on Android"
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2006-01-25

You have no clue what apples business model is all about.


Apple's business model is to make money...

If the bean counters at Apple feel like making Android devices capable of participation in the iTunes economy ultimately makes them more money, well then Apple is going to do that.

I don't see why they didn't do this already to be honest - probably waiting to see if the Android market got big enough to bother. Regardless, this is a total no-brainer - I would almost guarantee that iTunes is what Cook was talking about...

What is so strange about this idea? iTunes is on Windows isn't it... Why? Because it is too large a market to ignore.

Android = same thing

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RE: iTunes store on Android
by d3vi1 on Thu 30th May 2013 08:53 in reply to "iTunes store on Android"
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2006-01-28

I think the obvious thing for them to do would be to make the iTunes store available on Android. Not the apps, of course, but the music and movie library would directly compete with Google's offerings. This would provide a pretty good revenue stream without the need to invest a great deal of effort.


I think that there's nothing stoping you from importing your DRM-free iTunes music (including iTunes Match) on your Droid. Regarding movies, the DRM is indeed Apple only, but there are applications that can remove that for you. I personally remove all DRM from my purchases immediately, in order to play (via UPnP) on my PS3 or directly on my TV. There is a nifty application called Playback from Yazsoft that exports your iTunes library over the network in UPnP.
Porting their DRM engine to Android would be difficult. They could do a port of the iPod app but that would be like shooting themselves in the foot, and it wouldn't integrate with the other apps on the Droid. I don't think Android has an API for an extensible DRM implementation right in the multi-media implementation that all apps could use.

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RE[2]: iTunes store on Android
by Laurence on Thu 30th May 2013 09:17 in reply to "RE: iTunes store on Android"
Laurence Member since:
2007-03-26

Some Android devices do have DRM modules. Samsung and HTC handsets certainly do as some streaming services only work on DRM capable devices and list Samsung and HTC handsets. But it's not something that's present in all Android devices. What I don't know is if the DRM is a hardware controller (ie a chip with DRM firmware loaded so if load a custom ROM on a Samsung SIII I'd still be able to play DRM content) or whether it's purely a software thing (which means custom ROMs would break DRM playback).

Also, I know I'm nitpicking, but your streaming content via DLNA. The overall protocol is a Sony one and called DLNA (Digital [somthing] Network Alliance). But DNLA does use UPnP to handle some of it's network chatter (eg for network discovery) which is why people often refer to DLNA streaming as UPnP (I used to make this mistake myself).

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RE[2]: iTunes store on Android
by darknexus on Thu 30th May 2013 12:03 in reply to "RE: iTunes store on Android"
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2008-07-15

Regarding movies, the DRM is indeed Apple only, but there are applications that can remove that for you.

The only one that worked recently that I know of is now abandonware and no longer works, unfortunately.

Porting their DRM engine to Android would be difficult.

Not particularly. Apple's DRM is a system of multiple keys and tokens, similar in basic terms to other DRMs used by companies such as Audible. They wouldn't need to port that much of it; they'd just need to decide what data they're going to use as your device identifier and change that part of the DRM validation routine.

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