Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 29th May 2013 17:11 UTC
Talk, Rumors, X Versus Y "Finland is Nokia. Nokia is Finland. I've traveled to quite a few number of countries this year, and the only place where I see Lumia phones is this chunk of ice that I call home. According to the Finnish business publication Taloussanomat, who references data from IDC, Q1 2013 was the first quarter where mobile phones from the South Korean handset maker Samsung outsold those designed in Espoo. If that's not alarming, I don't know what is." Ouch.
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Nokia is dead (to me at least)
by kompak on Wed 29th May 2013 18:20 UTC
kompak
Member since:
2011-06-14

I'm from Finland and apart from one Motorola NMT phone back in the nineties, I've always had Nokia phones and been generally very pleased with them. Now I'm stuck with the N900 as it was pretty much the last good thing to come from Nokia. I wouldn't even consider the Lumias and what contact I've had with them is fixing constant problems from phones of my friends and family. Android seems horribly cluttered and slow and iOS is not for "power users" (we used to call them nerds) like me. After my N900 dies I probably just have to revert back to my good old 2110.

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moondevil Member since:
2005-07-08

I have been in Helsinki and Espoo a few times.

During my travels there I got to appreciate how things changed from everyone carrying Nokia mobiles on the streets to seeing most young Finns with iPhone and Android devices.

My last time there was in 2010 and it was quite sad to see the Nokia store with more employees than clients.

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cdude Member since:
2008-09-21

In 2010 it was still Nokia all along, young, old, nerd or user*. Today finland has few Nokia shops or even sales personal left. Outside of finland even lesser. In 2010 working for Nokia earned you fame among fins, old, young, every fin. Today its more a kind of "I am sorry" look**. There isn't much illusion left where Nokia is heading to***.

*Compare sales figures and market share of 2010 with 2013.
**First non-fin CEO, first non-fin product, a spectacular downfall since then, there are not much fins left who don't know somebody that lost his job at Nokia under Elop.
***"Are you aware that results are what matter?" (Nokia shareholder meeting Q1)

Edited 2013-05-30 08:40 UTC

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Bill Shooter of Bul Member since:
2006-07-14

Is there any reason why you're ruling out a jolla phone? Sounds like its the closest thing you'd be able to get.

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WereCatf Member since:
2006-02-15

Is there any reason why you're ruling out a jolla phone? Sounds like its the closest thing you'd be able to get.


That's what I was wondering about, too. I quite liked my N900, but the SDK was a major hassle to setup and use and the OS on it is full of rough corners everywhere. With that notion I personally will go for Jailfish like a dog goes for a bone as soon as they release one with a larger display.

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ricegf Member since:
2007-04-25

Yes, while I'm quite interested in what Ubuntu eventually produces, Jolla looks to really have their act together with "MeeGo Next". The Other Half hardware has interesting potential as well. Hope they make it to the USA soon after Europe.

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kompak Member since:
2011-06-14

I'm not ruling it out in fact they're my last hope for a good phone. They just haven't been able to actually deliver any phones yet.

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