Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 28th May 2013 12:59 UTC
Opera Software "Countless hours of hard work, hectoliters of coffee, tons of improvements, two version numbers skipped, and here it is: the all-new Opera for desktop is now out as an Opera Next version, Opera's channel for what used to be called beta. Made from scratch, this version is available for Windows and Mac and brings a new, elegant design and a bunch of new features that will make your browsing experience sleeker and easier than ever." The first version using something called 'Chromium's engine' - I guess they can't call it WebKit anymore, but they can't call it Blink yet either. It's looking great, but the bookmark functionality seems to not have been implemented yet in this preview
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Alpha
by Tuishimi on Wed 29th May 2013 22:24 UTC
Tuishimi
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2005-07-06

It's alpha. It's just the beginning of what they hope to roll out, I am sure. Give them a little time and see what comes of it before going all doom and gloom.

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RE: Alpha
by Kochise on Thu 30th May 2013 10:42 in reply to "Alpha"
Kochise Member since:
2006-03-03

Alpha or not, I'm not going anymore with any Opera Diluted release. Since desktop version 12 Opera hangs on certain sites (don't know if it's the extensions that breaks things or not) but Opera still claims everything is fine while hundreds of users scream at them that : NO, definitively NO, not everything is perfect. Far from.

In desktop version 11 that introduced, pardon me... pushed down users' throat the new "visual mouse gesture" with a new algorithm that made things really lame. There was a huge uproar on the forum and they release 3 versions before correcting this issue, always rejecting faults on users for their lack of adaptedness. Come on...

Sure they tweaked their Presto engine to run the Acid3 test first, but some site still renders strangely, and rejecting fault on webmasters is the easy path. The user don't give a f--k whose at fault, he just want to access the Internet flawlessly.

And now this : good they are using a more robust rendering engine (stop praising Presto, in the end it haven't impressed much otherwise Opera would have got much market share) but their are still experimenting with UI. Do we really need everything to change at each incarnation ?

Opera proudly introduced WebGL in late desktop version 11 betas and early 12 alphas, but it still can render only very simple WebGL. Their introduce things but not complete them afterward. So I'm getting really fed up of using long lasting alpha released as stable.

And don't get me on speaking about the M2 mail client that often breaks (on power outage) due to temporary files not being correctly flushed and original files corruption. Ability to recover from mail database corruption ? Almost none, not automated wizardry to recover mail files into accounts and resync everything, all what you have is an import file-by-file facility. Seriously...

/rant off

Kochise

Edited 2013-05-30 10:44 UTC

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RE[2]: Alpha
by Tuishimi on Thu 30th May 2013 14:33 in reply to "RE: Alpha"
Tuishimi Member since:
2005-07-06

*hug*

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RE[2]: Alpha
by PresentIt on Fri 31st May 2013 13:13 in reply to "RE: Alpha"
PresentIt Member since:
2010-02-10

Since desktop version 12 Opera hangs on certain sites (don't know if it's the extensions that breaks things or not) but Opera still claims everything is fine while hundreds of users scream at them that

Really? Proof, please. I want some specific examples of this.

There was a huge uproar on the forum and they release 3 versions before correcting this issue, always rejecting faults on users for their lack of adaptedness. Come on...

Really? They blamed the users? Proof, please. Otherwise one will have conclude that you are a liar.

Sure they tweaked their Presto engine to run the Acid3 test first, but some site still renders strangely, and rejecting fault on webmasters is the easy path. The user don't give a f--k whose at fault, he just want to access the Internet flawlessly.

This is a blatant lie. Opera doesn't blame the webmasters. They made Presto from scratch to be as compatible as possible. I don't know what your agenda is, lying about Opera like this, so maybe you could explain.

Why are you lying about Opera blaming other people?

but their are still experimenting with UI. Do we really need everything to change at each incarnation ?

Ok, now you are getting annoying. Do you not understand the concept of creating a UI from scratch? Are you so ignorant of software development that you don't understand that you can't implement a hundred features in a few days?

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