Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 29th May 2013 16:59 UTC
Apple At the D11 conference, Apple CEO Tim Cook once again took the stage to be interviewed by Walt Mossberg and Kara Swisher. While most of the interview can be replicated by picking and reading 10 random Apple fanblog stories - there were still a number of very interesting things that warrant some closer scrutiny.
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RE: iTunes store on Android
by d3vi1 on Thu 30th May 2013 08:53 UTC in reply to "iTunes store on Android"
d3vi1
Member since:
2006-01-28

I think the obvious thing for them to do would be to make the iTunes store available on Android. Not the apps, of course, but the music and movie library would directly compete with Google's offerings. This would provide a pretty good revenue stream without the need to invest a great deal of effort.


I think that there's nothing stoping you from importing your DRM-free iTunes music (including iTunes Match) on your Droid. Regarding movies, the DRM is indeed Apple only, but there are applications that can remove that for you. I personally remove all DRM from my purchases immediately, in order to play (via UPnP) on my PS3 or directly on my TV. There is a nifty application called Playback from Yazsoft that exports your iTunes library over the network in UPnP.
Porting their DRM engine to Android would be difficult. They could do a port of the iPod app but that would be like shooting themselves in the foot, and it wouldn't integrate with the other apps on the Droid. I don't think Android has an API for an extensible DRM implementation right in the multi-media implementation that all apps could use.

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RE[2]: iTunes store on Android
by Laurence on Thu 30th May 2013 09:17 in reply to "RE: iTunes store on Android"
Laurence Member since:
2007-03-26

Some Android devices do have DRM modules. Samsung and HTC handsets certainly do as some streaming services only work on DRM capable devices and list Samsung and HTC handsets. But it's not something that's present in all Android devices. What I don't know is if the DRM is a hardware controller (ie a chip with DRM firmware loaded so if load a custom ROM on a Samsung SIII I'd still be able to play DRM content) or whether it's purely a software thing (which means custom ROMs would break DRM playback).

Also, I know I'm nitpicking, but your streaming content via DLNA. The overall protocol is a Sony one and called DLNA (Digital [somthing] Network Alliance). But DNLA does use UPnP to handle some of it's network chatter (eg for network discovery) which is why people often refer to DLNA streaming as UPnP (I used to make this mistake myself).

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RE[3]: iTunes store on Android
by d3vi1 on Thu 30th May 2013 09:28 in reply to "RE[2]: iTunes store on Android"
d3vi1 Member since:
2006-01-28

Some Android devices do have DRM modules. Samsung and HTC handsets certainly do as some streaming services only work on DRM capable devices and list Samsung and HTC handsets. But it's not something that's present in all Android devices. What I don't know is if the DRM is a hardware controller (ie a chip with DRM firmware loaded so if load a custom ROM on a Samsung SIII I'd still be able to play DRM content) or whether it's purely a software thing (which means custom ROMs would break DRM playback).


DRM is purely software in most cases. On some devices it uses the hardware crypto key embedded in the device to unlock the key store with the decryption keys for all your media, but not on Apple devices. The problem on Android is that every vendor that supports DRM implements it in it's own way and you cannot extend it with another DRM scheme on that given device. If you have a Sony, Apple cannot programatically and in a supported way add FairPlay to it so that the whole platform can play iTunes content.

Fortunately, the music content bought from iTunes is DRM-free, but using it on a non-apple device means that you loose Genius, and depending on the iTunes integration, you might also loose playlist synchronization.

Also, I know I'm nitpicking, but your streaming content via DLNA. The overall protocol is a Sony one and called DLNA (Digital [somthing] Network Alliance). But DNLA does use UPnP to handle some of it's network chatter (eg for network discovery) which is why people often refer to DLNA streaming as UPnP (I used to make this mistake myself).


Yes, DLNA is a UPnP based protocol that is used for streaming. I have no philosophical problems using it and since my devices already support it, I saw no reason to purchase an Apple TV. The PS3, the XBox and most new generation TVs are quite decent for playing back movies, which invalidated my need for yet another device with another remote and other UI on my TV.

The something that you were looking for is Livingroom.

Edited 2013-05-30 09:29 UTC

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RE[3]: iTunes store on Android
by phoenix on Thu 30th May 2013 22:00 in reply to "RE[2]: iTunes store on Android"
phoenix Member since:
2005-07-11

Also, I know I'm nitpicking, but your streaming content via DLNA. The overall protocol is a Sony one and called DLNA (Digital [somthing] Network Alliance).


Digital Living Network Alliance

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RE[2]: iTunes store on Android
by darknexus on Thu 30th May 2013 12:03 in reply to "RE: iTunes store on Android"
darknexus Member since:
2008-07-15

Regarding movies, the DRM is indeed Apple only, but there are applications that can remove that for you.

The only one that worked recently that I know of is now abandonware and no longer works, unfortunately.

Porting their DRM engine to Android would be difficult.

Not particularly. Apple's DRM is a system of multiple keys and tokens, similar in basic terms to other DRMs used by companies such as Audible. They wouldn't need to port that much of it; they'd just need to decide what data they're going to use as your device identifier and change that part of the DRM validation routine.

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