Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 31st May 2013 10:11 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless "Google and HTC made a lot of dreams come true this morning when Android head Sundar Pichai announced a version of the HTC One with stock Android at the D11 conference. Google's Hugo Barra happened to have a stock One in his pocket, and he gave me a quick look." This is awesome. So incredibly awesome. This is the way to go for Google to ensure the most popular Android devices can be obtained with stock Android for those of us that want it. It's also great for custom ROM makers - although it might be that crucial driver code is still closed and unusable for custom ROMs. Also, good guy HTC: they might make a downloadable AOSP ROM available for people who bought the HTC One with Sense.
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Stock Android
by Jbso on Fri 31st May 2013 13:22 UTC
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It would be nice to have more phones with stock Android and direct Google updates, but not all of them - that would mean losing variety as manufacturers would have to wait for Google support for new hardware, like when HTC couldn't make a Full HD Windows Phone. I'd like to see more hardware experimentation, like Samsung did with the Note or the Beam, or that Sony(?) phone that had a slideout gamepad. That's Android's key advantage over Windows Phone - manufacturers actually can differentiate, not just slap a skin on it. More of that please.

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RE: Stock Android
by Nelson on Fri 31st May 2013 15:11 in reply to "Stock Android"
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2005-11-29

And you trust HTC to fully integrate an SoC firmware driver into an OS they have experience tinkering with at that level?

This is the point where the men are separated from the boys so to speak when it comes to OEMs.

We're moving towards customized components which would require more than off the shelf parts, and the biggest beneficiary will likely be Samsung given their relative foot print in the area.

I'm not particularly excited for a 1080p Windows Phone, as I was pressed to see the difference (other than better view angles and color reproduction) on a Galaxy S3 and Galaxy S4.

Cramming that much more pixels is just a battery burn and GPU hog. Not to mention sourcing the components probably raises prices on the phones.

It is a bullet point, but I think that if customers are basing purchasing decisions on a spec sheet, Microsoft has larger issues than 1080p support. They need to articulate the entire value proposition better.

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RE[2]: Stock Android
by Jbso on Fri 31st May 2013 17:34 in reply to "RE: Stock Android"
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I don't really think 1080p is that important personally, just an example of how MS's control can hold back a manufacturer. Most people don't seem to think styli are important, but I like them, so I'm glad Samsung was willing and able to make a good stylus phone.

I wasn't really arguing about what would make WP sell more phones, but about what would make the phone market "better" (subjectively). The small number of stock Android phones is enough for me - there are 3 good ones out there to buy now if that's what I want. I'd like to see OEMs making something new that I can't get direct from Google.

It's like when people argue about removeable batteries, SD cards, how many people value those things? I don't want a removeable battery, but I do want to use SD cards. It's good that I have the choice, just like it's good for battery swappers that they can have what they want even if some OEMs don't think it's important.

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RE[2]: Stock Android
by darknexus on Sat 1st Jun 2013 00:04 in reply to "RE: Stock Android"
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It is a bullet point, but I think that if customers are basing purchasing decisions on a spec sheet, Microsoft has larger issues than 1080p support. They need to articulate the entire value proposition better.

Yeah, they first need to *have* a value proposition. Microsoft could have been the next Blackberry, making WP integrate with Sharepoint, Outlook/Exchange, Active Directory, everything. They should have concentrated on the enterprise, that's what they do best. Right now, Apple's selling point is the iTunes ecosystem and integration at all points, while Google's is the extreme openness and integration with Google's own services. Where's Microsoft's value? They could've had it, but they chose to go after a market that was already taken rather than the business, which is a market that is about to lose its one vertically integrated device provider (Blackberry). They had a perfect opportunity to step in, and they flubbed it by playing the "me too" game instead. Whoever made that decision should be fired immediately.

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