Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 31st May 2013 10:11 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless "Google and HTC made a lot of dreams come true this morning when Android head Sundar Pichai announced a version of the HTC One with stock Android at the D11 conference. Google's Hugo Barra happened to have a stock One in his pocket, and he gave me a quick look." This is awesome. So incredibly awesome. This is the way to go for Google to ensure the most popular Android devices can be obtained with stock Android for those of us that want it. It's also great for custom ROM makers - although it might be that crucial driver code is still closed and unusable for custom ROMs. Also, good guy HTC: they might make a downloadable AOSP ROM available for people who bought the HTC One with Sense.
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RE[2]: Stock Android
by Jbso on Fri 31st May 2013 17:34 UTC in reply to "RE: Stock Android"
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I don't really think 1080p is that important personally, just an example of how MS's control can hold back a manufacturer. Most people don't seem to think styli are important, but I like them, so I'm glad Samsung was willing and able to make a good stylus phone.

I wasn't really arguing about what would make WP sell more phones, but about what would make the phone market "better" (subjectively). The small number of stock Android phones is enough for me - there are 3 good ones out there to buy now if that's what I want. I'd like to see OEMs making something new that I can't get direct from Google.

It's like when people argue about removeable batteries, SD cards, how many people value those things? I don't want a removeable battery, but I do want to use SD cards. It's good that I have the choice, just like it's good for battery swappers that they can have what they want even if some OEMs don't think it's important.

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RE[3]: Stock Android
by Nelson on Fri 31st May 2013 21:59 in reply to "RE[2]: Stock Android"
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I don't really think 1080p is that important personally, just an example of how MS's control can hold back a manufacturer. Most people don't seem to think styli are important, but I like them, so I'm glad Samsung was willing and able to make a good stylus phone.


Sure. Its a trade off. You trade off flexibility for predictability. You pick up one Windows Phone then pick up the next one and the performance differences are imperceptible. That kind of predictability is a god send to developers, particularly game developers who don't like having a moving target.


I wasn't really arguing about what would make WP sell more phones, but about what would make the phone market "better" (subjectively). The small number of stock Android phones is enough for me - there are 3 good ones out there to buy now if that's what I want. I'd like to see OEMs making something new that I can't get direct from Google.


Yeah, I got a little carried away in my long winded response. It was in relation to the 1080p stuff which I think we can agree is nice to have, but there are way nicer things to have.

I can think of the flexibility being useful for other things on the SoC besides the processor though. Maybe nVidia will make a kick ass Tegra with some really cool on chip feature. That'd be more worth it to me than just "it has more cores".

I'll use Microsoft as an example just because they're currently are practicing what we're discussing.

I can certainly see where it'd hold someone back. I think Microsoft is a happy medium between Android's extreme openness and Apple's completely closed direction. Still, they can afford to do more to be more nimble.

Similarly, I think Google can lurch a little bit to the more controlled side of things without sacrificing too much. That said, I'm extremely ignorant as to what they already do, so I wont start rattling off ideas.


It's like when people argue about removeable batteries, SD cards, how many people value those things? I don't want a removeable battery, but I do want to use SD cards. It's good that I have the choice, just like it's good for battery swappers that they can have what they want even if some OEMs don't think it's important.


Yeah, definitely. Those smaller things should be given to OEMs to differentiate on. Cameras, Displays (minus maybe resolution unless it maintains the same aspect ratio), Build material, value-add services, etc.

There needs to be some sort of sanity in these things though, Android just lets you go wild. Some apps have a permanent ad displayed on the notification shade. Who in the hell thought that was a good idea?

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