Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 28th May 2013 12:59 UTC
Opera Software "Countless hours of hard work, hectoliters of coffee, tons of improvements, two version numbers skipped, and here it is: the all-new Opera for desktop is now out as an Opera Next version, Opera's channel for what used to be called beta. Made from scratch, this version is available for Windows and Mac and brings a new, elegant design and a bunch of new features that will make your browsing experience sleeker and easier than ever." The first version using something called 'Chromium's engine' - I guess they can't call it WebKit anymore, but they can't call it Blink yet either. It's looking great, but the bookmark functionality seems to not have been implemented yet in this preview
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RE[5]: Alpha
by Kochise on Sat 1st Jun 2013 19:58 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: Alpha"
Kochise
Member since:
2006-03-03

And again, I pointed web sites that actually renders badly under Opera, and whooops, you just "forgot" them ;) Tiresome...

And you expect me to point you "proofs" to be "forgotten" as well ? I won't waste my time, you're just this kind of rose-tainted glass people that cannot cope with criticism. There's really no use arguing with you, you'll always elude the evidence, telling... shouting how much a liar liar LIAAAAAR I am.

Be a man, live with it, Opera failed. They had a pretty honest success for their niche, but if they had to go Chrominium/Blink/whatever, then they must have concluded that the Presto way wasn't worth.

BTW you seems very impressed by articles. Yet, while Opera pretend to have made such an "entirely new and expansive foundation", they could just have configured the UI with all the features of the old one (including M2). And there is also UI frameworks available, is that really necessary to produce another incarnation/fragmentation ?

Kochise

Edited 2013-06-01 20:03 UTC

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RE[6]: Alpha
by PresentIt on Sat 1st Jun 2013 20:55 in reply to "RE[5]: Alpha"
PresentIt Member since:
2010-02-10

And again, I pointed web sites that actually renders badly under Opera, and whooops, you just "forgot" them ;) Tiresome...

That wasn't what I asked you about. Site problems is one of the reason they are switching in the first place.

What YOU need to prove is that they are blaming the sites.

BTW you seems very impressed by articles. Yet, while Opera pretend to have made such an "entirely new and expansive foundation", they could just have configured the UI with all the features of the old one (including M2).

No they couldn't. You are incredibly ignorant.

But back to the topic: You lied about Opera blaming the users, and you lied about Opera only blaming sites.

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RE[7]: Alpha
by Kochise on Sun 2nd Jun 2013 06:43 in reply to "RE[6]: Alpha"
Kochise Member since:
2006-03-03

That wasn't what I asked you about. Site problems is one of the reason they are switching in the first place.

Sites problems ? Switching ? Hey, are you telling me that Presto cannot cope with some web sites, so that's why Opera is changing of rendering engine ?

I told you that several web sites renders improperly under Opera, I provide proofs, and you're told me I'm a liar, that Presto is fabulous and compliant. I provide proofs, and you ditch them with a "That wasn't what I asked you about" ? Come on...

What YOU need to prove is that they are blaming the sites.

I said : come on... Whenever I'll proove you my words (and I know they're true) you'll quickly jump to another subject, like you just done. I pointed you the forum in which Opera developers claims users' fault. Of course it's not on the main page and the headlines. Learn to use the search option of the forum.

No they couldn't. You are incredibly ignorant.

They... couldn't ? Really ? That's one of a surprising answer. You mean, the less functional UI was able to, but the new shiny and expansive framwork cannot ? And I'm the one ignorant here ?

But back to the topic: You lied about Opera blaming the users, and you lied about Opera only blaming sites.

Nope, you're obviously the one jumping to conclusion twisting the reality, just show above. I never said "ONLY" blaming sites, some sites have their part at fault. But well, go as you wish, dices were already thrown, we'll see if Opera wins in the end...

Kochise

Edited 2013-06-02 06:49 UTC

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