Linked by snydeq on Tue 4th Jun 2013 01:46 UTC
Windows First looks at Windows 'Blue' have revealed an upgrade composed of cosmetic fixes, suggesting that Microsoft may be blowing its chance to turn the tide on Windows 8 blow back, and make good on its promise to truly 'rethink' Windows 8 with the release of Windows Blue. As a result, InfoWorld has issued an open letter to Microsoft to consider Windows 'Red' -- what InfoWorld is calling a 'serious plan' to fix the flaws of Windows 8, one that could rescue Microsoft's currently flagging promise to deliver a modern computing experience on both PCs and tablets.
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RE[2]: Withholding judgement
by Fergy on Tue 4th Jun 2013 18:11 UTC in reply to "RE: Withholding judgement"
Fergy
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2006-04-10

It is basically a full screen start menu. Which is the exact same situation we have in Windows 7. When you use the Start Menu, you don't get to interact with the rest of the Desktop in a meaningful manner (or else it dismisses the Menu). Windows 8.1 just uses this space more efficiently and shows you more content.

You just lost any credibility you might have had. The startmenu is a small menu so you only have to focus on a small part of the screen. At the same time you don't have to move your mouse a lot. The startmenu has your most used actions and applications in one small list.

With the startscreen you have to scan across you monitor to find the actions and applications you are looking for. It has multiple tabs like applications, settings and files that you have to click. Settings even shows a blank screen. You cannot customize startscreen to a useful state. Startscreen is dumber than startmenu because it has no idea what you are trying to do.
Let's face it: it is meant for touch on a small screen. Android would be horrible on my 24 inch.

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RE[3]: Withholding judgement
by Nelson on Tue 4th Jun 2013 18:21 in reply to "RE[2]: Withholding judgement"
Nelson Member since:
2005-11-29


You just lost any credibility you might have had.


Right. Lets leave the tired cliches at the door.


The startmenu is a small menu so you only have to focus on a small part of the screen. At the same time you don't have to move your mouse a lot. The startmenu has your most used actions and applications in one small list.


You don't focus if you have ...the rest of the Desktop including all open Windows still in your face. There is a very real cognitive overload that occurs under those situations.


With the startscreen you have to scan across you monitor to find the actions and applications you are looking for. It has multiple tabs like applications, settings and files that you have to click. Settings even shows a blank screen.


I can see around 60 apps in the "All Apps" menu using a blank search. Obviously typing will filter this down to 2-3 results and you won't do much scanning at all.

If you've invoked the Charms Bar via Hot Corners, you already have your Mouse on the Right side of the Screen. Your travel time is actually around the same as it would be in a Start Menu.

I can also search for content inside of every app which supports the Search Contract on Windows 8.

In addition, the All Apps menu supports Semantic Zoom for jumping from category to category. On the Start Menu I would have to move my mouse to scroll further and further.


You cannot customize startscreen to a useful state. Startscreen is dumber than startmenu because it has no idea what you are trying to do.


The Start Screen afford me more customization than the Desktop (though this is unrelated to the Start Menu). In Windows 8.1, the customization options are even more dramatic.

With 8.1 I can customize the Tile Sizes in various ways (very small, normal, wide, large) turn Live Tiles on/off, change accent colors for tiles, change background start screen color, change parallax secondary color, use the same background as my Desktop, have a moving background, etc.

I can also organize them by categories and jump to them using Semantic Zoom. My Start Screen in 8.1 will also sync across my Laptop, Desktop, and Tablet computer seamlessly including all application settings.


Let's face it: it is meant for touch on a small screen. Android would be horrible on my 24 inch.


You have a very shallow understanding of Windows 8.

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