Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 4th Jun 2013 22:08 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless "Several Android tablets running on Intel Clover Trail+ Atom processors broke cover at Computex Taiwan. Intel's dual-core, 1.6GHz Atom Z5260 is fueling a Samsung Galaxy Tab 3 10.1 tablet, as well as Asus's 6-inch Fonepad Note and 10-inch MemoPad FHD10 tablets, while Asus also unveiled a hybrid 11.6-inch Transformer Book Trio, combining an Android slate based on a 2GHz dual-core Atom Z2580 with a keyboard dock running Windows 8 on an Intel Haswell processor."
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RE[2]: Please fail
by viton on Wed 5th Jun 2013 08:05 UTC in reply to "RE: Please fail"
viton
Member since:
2005-08-09

Monocultures hardly breed innovation.

Oh yeah. Intel monopoly is definitely not.

You can see desktop Haswell is barely faster than 2yo SandyBrigde, and sometimes slower than Ivy. Once again the motherboard is not compatible. Whopping 3% speedup is definitely worth that price.

ARM universe has a long forgotten thing called competition, while x86 has only one player (AMD is not even considered as viable player by Intel itself).

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RE[3]: Please fail
by Kivada on Wed 5th Jun 2013 08:50 in reply to "RE[2]: Please fail"
Kivada Member since:
2010-07-07

Wrong, AMD has always been Intel's research and development firm. Though with the purchase of ATI AMD has allot of new tech it isn't required to stare with Intel.

Take a look at what AMD has cooked up for the Kaveri line of APUs and the next gen consoles. AMD doesn't have to have the best integer performance if they are going to be putting an HD7750 on the same die as their steamroller cores and is adding GDDR5 to the system memory pool. Apparently allowing you to have both DDR3 and GDDR5 sticks installed on the same mobo with the CPU ad GPU being able to use both simultaneously and share data between each other with no latency instead of having to pass everything through the PCIe bus and making multiple reads and writes to the system and vram. The results are far faster GPGPU and physics calculations as well as anything needing to use the FPU just redirecting to the GPU.

Once the new consoles are out the game devs aren't going to be looking to optimize much at all for Nvidia hardware, since AMD is powering them all, even the lowly WiiU.

Even if Intel where to buy Nvidia tomorrow they would be a minimum 3 years out from having something comparable to Kaveri.

The updated Richland APUs are just to keep a solid lead in the iGPU department over Intel and are slated to only have a life of 6 months.

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RE[4]: Please fail
by viton on Wed 5th Jun 2013 09:20 in reply to "RE[3]: Please fail"
viton Member since:
2005-08-09

AMD doesn't have to have the best integer performance if they are going to be putting an HD7750 on the same die as their steamroller cores and is adding GDDR5 to the system memory pool.

Haswell Iris 5200 integrated GPU outperforms A10-5800k (HD7660) discrete card at 1/2 of power.
i7-4950HQ has 128MB of EDRAM L4 cache on package.

Apparently allowing you to have both DDR3 and GDDR5 sticks installed on the same mobo with the CPU ad GPU being able to use both simultaneously.

GDDR5 memory is not "sticks" - it is soldered on PCB. Also you can't use both at the same time.

Once the new consoles are out the game devs aren't going to be looking to optimize much at all for Nvidia hardware

Do you understand that consoles and PCs are different optimization targets?

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RE[3]: Please fail
by zima on Fri 7th Jun 2013 21:13 in reply to "RE[2]: Please fail"
zima Member since:
2005-07-06

You can see desktop Haswell is barely faster than 2yo SandyBrigde, and sometimes slower than Ivy.

Do you have a link for some review/benchmarks which actually shows that? My Intel-loving buddy couldn't find one, says Haswell is generally faster across the board ;)

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