Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 5th Jun 2013 12:09 UTC
Windows Microsoft has released a video showing off some of the features coming to Windows 8.1. I must say, the new features all look like great additions (the new search looks awesome), but I'm much more interested in performance - the huge bottleneck for anything related to Metro. In addition, as part of the Windows 8.1 update, Windows RT users will get an ARM version of Outlook. Not that I care, but I'm sure some business users do.
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RE[2]: UAC
by wojtek on Wed 5th Jun 2013 12:51 UTC in reply to "RE: UAC"
wojtek
Member since:
2010-01-24

#facepalm

I'm aware that I can still edit the file and so forth - but imagine situation where I already have opened N++ and simply want to edit yet another file and I have to jump through stupid and pointless hoops just to add one line... no, don't think so...
I DON'T NEED METRO APPS, I could use them if they weren't making me do unconvenient things for the rest of the day... <shrug shoulders>

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RE[3]: UAC
by Bill Shooter of Bul on Wed 5th Jun 2013 15:13 in reply to "RE[2]: UAC"
Bill Shooter of Bul Member since:
2006-07-14

UAC isn't pointless.... Its one of the best things Microsoft has ever added to windows.

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RE[4]: UAC
by darknexus on Wed 5th Jun 2013 19:03 in reply to "RE[3]: UAC"
darknexus Member since:
2008-07-15

UAC isn't pointless.... Its one of the best things Microsoft has ever added to windows.

Not really. It could have been, if they'd done it right and required a password or something other than mindlessly clicking the "yes" or "continue" buttons. Sure, it will require a password if the account is not an admin, but the fact is that when most people set up their laptops they use the defaults, and the default is that the first user created is an admin. As such they still end up downloading something like "BarelyLegalTeenzNaked.jpg.exe" and clicking the damn thing, then impatiently click yes. Same with installers, damn near every installer wants elevated access so it can write to Program Files, change the registry, etc. I realize that most installers don't actually *need* this, but they request it anyway and thus the users are desensitized to what the UAC prompt should signify. Rather than raising a red flag as it should, it's become just one more dialog to click through and get rid of.
UAC hasn't actually protected anyone who doesn't already have the knowledge to protect themselves. Those who do don't need it, and those who don't will just click through it anyway.
** Edited for clarification.

Edited 2013-06-05 19:10 UTC

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RE[3]: UAC
by Nelson on Wed 5th Jun 2013 15:22 in reply to "RE[2]: UAC"
Nelson Member since:
2005-11-29

I'm quite computer fluent and UAC simply gets in the way


I often need to edit some system files


UAC is working as intended. Requiring user consent and privilege elevation is expected when you're trying to edit system files.

Normal users seldom have to do such things.

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RE[4]: UAC
by Wafflez on Wed 5th Jun 2013 16:05 in reply to "RE[3]: UAC"
Wafflez Member since:
2011-06-26

True. And atleast it isn't like in Linux where everything requires root's password.

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RE[4]: UAC
by WorknMan on Wed 5th Jun 2013 18:10 in reply to "RE[3]: UAC"
WorknMan Member since:
2005-11-13

Normal users seldom have to do such things.


Which is why anyone who isn't a 'normal user' should be the ones who are inconvenienced and shit on for the sake of millions of dumbasses who keep breaking their machines ;) At work, I can't even right click on a file in a network drive anymore without being pestered about not accepting candy from strangers.

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RE[3]: UAC
by n4cer on Wed 5th Jun 2013 17:22 in reply to "RE[2]: UAC"
n4cer Member since:
2005-07-06

Install the "Save as admin" plugin from Notepad++'s plugin manager. If you then try to save a file that requires elevated privileges, you'll simply need to confirm a UAC prompt rather than the operation being blocked.

For NetBeans, you could simply run the IDE as admin if you regularly access files in protected locations.

Edited 2013-06-05 17:25 UTC

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RE[4]: UAC
by wojtek on Wed 5th Jun 2013 22:21 in reply to "RE[3]: UAC"
wojtek Member since:
2010-01-24

Thanks for the hing about the plugin - this sounds quite nice!

As for the netbeans - the biggest problem was with the update - regular NB can run just fine, but then the update occurs, it needs elevated privilages and thus reuire being run as admin... it's just a bit annoying, and given that I do not explicitely need to run metro apps then turning off UAC was waaay simpler...

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