Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 7th Jun 2013 11:40 UTC
Legal This story is getting bigger and bigger. Even though most Americans probably already knew, it is now official: the United States government, through its National Security Agency, is collecting the communications and data of all American citizens, and of non-Americans using American services, through a wide collaboration with the large companies in technology, like Apple, Google, Microsoft, Facebook, and so on. Interestingly enough, the NSA itself, as well as the US government, have repeatedly and firmly denied this massive spying on Americans and non-Americans took place at all.
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RE: Why is this bad?
by pooo on Fri 7th Jun 2013 17:05 UTC in reply to "Why is this bad?"
pooo
Member since:
2006-04-22

It is incredible how naive people can be (you) and how totally people can forget history (you) and why certain protections were created in the first place (you).

Power *will* be abused. The US constitution specifically prohibits illegal search and seizure because it is a huge opportunity for government abuses. The authors knew this because it was written in a time when this was rampant.

Sometimes when govt has too much power they will use it against their own citizens, then how will you like your lower crime rates? You have to accept that short term minor safety is not worth the total loss of govt oversight because that can easily result in a much worse reduction in your safety.

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RE[2]: Why is this bad?
by Alex Hitech on Fri 7th Jun 2013 18:45 in reply to "RE: Why is this bad?"
Alex Hitech Member since:
2005-12-29

I still think that lower crime rates now are much more important than theoretical possibility that some time in a distant future someone in the government will use this power to his own good.

After all, he is also watched, just like anyone else.

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RE[3]: Why is this bad?
by tylerdurden on Fri 7th Jun 2013 18:52 in reply to "RE[2]: Why is this bad?"
tylerdurden Member since:
2009-03-17

LOL, so please give me all your personal info, e-mails, texts, and allow me to listen to your phone conversations. I personally consider my safety more important than your privacy, so you should be OK with that, right?

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RE[2]: Why is this bad?
by netpython on Sat 8th Jun 2013 12:57 in reply to "RE: Why is this bad?"
netpython Member since:
2005-07-06

How will there be lower crime rates,well actually less people in jail when narco officers get a bonus for every arrest they make? It's a full blown industry, prisons and everything around it.Ever seen a prison buisiness fair where all goods that directly and or in directly have some relation with the prison buisiness?

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