Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 7th Jun 2013 11:40 UTC
Legal This story is getting bigger and bigger. Even though most Americans probably already knew, it is now official: the United States government, through its National Security Agency, is collecting the communications and data of all American citizens, and of non-Americans using American services, through a wide collaboration with the large companies in technology, like Apple, Google, Microsoft, Facebook, and so on. Interestingly enough, the NSA itself, as well as the US government, have repeatedly and firmly denied this massive spying on Americans and non-Americans took place at all.
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RE: Gag Orders
by galvanash on Sat 8th Jun 2013 03:21 UTC in reply to "Gag Orders"
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"What's most peculiar is that the companies involved in PRISM all deny being part of it. The Washington Post contacted the companies involved, and Facebook and Apple said they have no knowledge of the program, and thus are not involved with it - which is odd, because the official government documentation clearly mentioned them."

Read the leaked court order...

If you parse the legalese what it basically says that acknowledging that you even know this agreement exists to anyone outside of the participants in the court order (the NSA and the FBI) is a breach of the court order.

In other words any company complying with this order is bound by law to say that they are not aware of it. Even admitting to the public that the order exists is breaching it...

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RE[2]: Gag Orders
by gfg233 on Sat 8th Jun 2013 08:27 in reply to "RE: Gag Orders"
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What is the alternative explanation to these companies lying? That they've been hacked by the US government for the past 6 years without any of the noticing? Hmm, interestingly according to the BBC - Twitter were invited to join Prism last year but they said no.

Also if you look at the denial statements, they are more or less the same from many of the companies giving the impression this may all be coordinated. It's a bunch of waffle. Not even one of the companies has threatened legal action to the Guardian, Washington Post or to anyone else for tarnishing their image.

That said other theories are appearing:

Edited 2013-06-08 08:46 UTC

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RE[3]: Gag Orders
by Soulbender on Sat 8th Jun 2013 09:11 in reply to "RE[2]: Gag Orders"
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I like the part where the FBI complains about the shitty leads from NSA. It pretty much means that all this spying and spending of tax-payers money yields no useful results.
Well, at least not useful for what they're supposed to be useful for...

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