Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 8th Jun 2013 14:57 UTC
Legal And yes, the PRISM scandal is far, far from over. More and more information keeps leaking out, and the more gets out, the worse it gets. The companies involved have sent out official statements - often by mouth of their CEOs - and what's interesting is that not only are these official statements eerily similar to each other, using the same terms clearly designed by lawyers, they also directly contradict new reports from The New York Times. So, who is lying?
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by re_re on Sat 8th Jun 2013 15:42 UTC
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"This is what you get when you let companies rule the show. They don't care about you, and they don't care about your privacy. I've been saying this for years, but I'll repeat it once more: do not trust companies. Ever."

I think this has more to do with the gov't threatening these companies with the wrath of God. I would find it very hard to believe that even the companies that went above and beyond would have complied with this without being strong armed into it.

That having been said, I am not saying that these corporations are necessarily wonderful members of society or that they did the right thing when they caved. I am however saying that I at least understand that they were under immense pressure from the NSA to do this.

I am not so quick to throw blame at companies. As a general rule I am inclined to more heavily scrutinize government before corporations.

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RE: Government?
by orfanum on Sun 9th Jun 2013 08:39 in reply to "Government?"
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I think the problem exists because there is little or no distinction increasingly. In many places in the world affecting to have democracy, constitutions or recognised legal precedent devise strict lines of formal demarcation between, say, the executive and the judiciary. But at the same time, informal practices have eroded the gulf between the executive/parliament and corporations.

In the UK we have two live examples of this. On the one hand, politicians, especially those in government, are becoming more frustrated since the judges often stick to their legal guns, to the 'detriment' of government policy. On the other, the lobbying scandal here demonstrates how politicians, whether of the Left or of the Right, wear different hats at the same time, one being commercial, and anyway slide easily between the business and political worlds. I even think that they do not see a difference.


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RE[2]: Government?
by Soulbender on Sun 9th Jun 2013 09:33 in reply to "RE: Government?"
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whether of the Left or of the Right, wear different hats at the same time, one being commercial

Your lefties are wearing commercial hats? Wtf? Shouldn't they be wearing the hat of the proletariat or one of them Castro caps?

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