Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 8th Jun 2013 14:57 UTC
Legal And yes, the PRISM scandal is far, far from over. More and more information keeps leaking out, and the more gets out, the worse it gets. The companies involved have sent out official statements - often by mouth of their CEOs - and what's interesting is that not only are these official statements eerily similar to each other, using the same terms clearly designed by lawyers, they also directly contradict new reports from The New York Times. So, who is lying?
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Those running the show
by darknexus on Sat 8th Jun 2013 17:29 UTC
darknexus
Member since:
2008-07-15

This is what you get when you let companies rule the show. They don't care about you, and they don't care about your privacy. I've been saying this for years, but I'll repeat it once more: do not trust companies. Ever.

Thom, how can you be so right about the rest of it and then say something this stupid? This is what you get whenever you have a government running the show, not companies. Facebook, Apple, Google, etc aren't running the show here. If they did, of course, these particular types of problems would be much less likely since it'd be bad for business and lose any company who did it a good deal of their user base. Of course, companies running the show causes other problems. What it boils down to is, people cause problems. Everything's perfect until the power-hungry bastards get involved, and that applies to companies, governments, and anything else you can name.
The only solution is a completely free society, but we'll never have that because so many people just want to be ruled. Living on their own is just too hard for them. They'd rather not think, and would rather just be told how to live and that they're safe. It's because of people like those that we'll see this cycle repeat again and again without end, no matter who runs the show. Those people want to be ruled, and there's always at least one power-lover that wants to do the ruling.

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RE: Those running the show
by woegjiub on Sat 8th Jun 2013 23:24 in reply to "Those running the show"
woegjiub Member since:
2008-11-25

We all know the government can not be trusted with these matters. The point is that companies can also not be trusted, and that libertarians are naïve for thinking monopolising companies would not throw all of their users under the bus to improve profit margins or marketshare.

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RE: Those running the show
by TM99 on Sun 9th Jun 2013 05:50 in reply to "Those running the show"
TM99 Member since:
2012-08-26

Are you truly so young and naive that you believe that it is solely the 'government'?

The government the USA has today is a revolving door between lobbyists, corporate CEO's and CFO's, and cabinet chiefs & congressmen/congresswomen.

Obama's entire 'economic' advisory team is made up of former banking officials from Wall Street. When he planned to revamp healthcare, he didn't turn to the doctors, allied health professionals, or the people, he turned to the CEO's of corporate insurance companies. The current education secretary doesn't listen to teachers or educators, he turns to the Bill Gates Foundation to implement his policies of reform. The Social Security trust fund would be entirely solvent if the money borrowed from it for the Iraq War was paid back. Instead, Congress turns to bankers to devise privatization schemes.

The USA is a corporate government and very rarely the Republic it was once founded to be. The government is not run by the people for the people. It is owned and run by MBA's, CEO's, and lapdog House, Senate, and Presidents beholden to these large entities for their billion dollar campaign war chests.

Stop reading Ayn Rand and do some study, research, reading, and observation. It is all laid out in front of us on a daily basis. PRISM is just another blatant example & Thom is dead on with his assessment and analysis.

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RE[2]: Those running the show
by Alfman on Sun 9th Jun 2013 06:21 in reply to "RE: Those running the show"
Alfman Member since:
2011-01-28

TM99,

+1 if I could. There's a big facade in place, but anyone who opens their eyes will see that washington is overrun by corporate interests.

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