Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 8th Jun 2013 14:57 UTC
Legal And yes, the PRISM scandal is far, far from over. More and more information keeps leaking out, and the more gets out, the worse it gets. The companies involved have sent out official statements - often by mouth of their CEOs - and what's interesting is that not only are these official statements eerily similar to each other, using the same terms clearly designed by lawyers, they also directly contradict new reports from The New York Times. So, who is lying?
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How about this?
by leonalpha on Sat 8th Jun 2013 18:30 UTC
leonalpha
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Here's a statement from Google, found here: https://plus.google.com/+YonatanZunger/posts/huwQsphBron

I have a tremendous number of thoughts about the various revelations about the NSA's domestic espionage programs revealed this week. But first and foremost, I wanted to share this message from +Larry Page and our Chief Legal Officer +David Drummond. Google had no involvement in the PRISM program and the first we heard of it was when Greenwald's article hit the press.

I'm not sure what the details of this PRISM program are, but I can tell you that the only way in which Google reveals information about users are when we receive lawful, specific orders about individuals -- things like search warrants. And we continue to stand firm against any attempts to do so broadly or without genuine, individualized suspicion, and publicize the results as much as possible in our Transparency Report. Having seen much of the internals of how we do this, I can tell you that it is a point of pride, both for the company and for many of us, personally, that we stand up to governments that demand people's information.


These reports from Thom have become increasingly annoying.

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RE: How about this?
by gfg233 on Sat 8th Jun 2013 19:12 in reply to "How about this?"
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2013-06-07

Pretty strong words from Yonatan Zunger (sounds Israeli). I actually believe him but he may well have not been in the loop.

"Yonatan Zunger02:50+15

+M Monica +Matt Harmon I have my own suspicions -- which I won't go into here -- about what PRISM was actually about. I'll just say that there are ways to intercept people's Google, Facebook, etc., traffic in bulk without sticking any moles into the org -- or directly tapping their lines. You may find some interesting hints in the leaked PRISM slides, http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/politics/prism-collect... , especially the second and fourth ones shown there. The subtleties of phrasing are important, I suspect, not because they were trying to be elliptical but because they reveal what was obvious to the people who were giving that presentation. "

"Yonatan Zunger03:17+8

+Michael Comia The NYT article touches on a number of things which I can't comment about, but I'll say that in every such matter that I'm familiar with, ethical standards were upheld which I would not feel embarrassed about in the least if the entire details were to be made public. "

Edited 2013-06-08 19:19 UTC

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