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Internet & Networking "Bruce Lawson started a very interesting discussion about the Encrypted Media Extensions to HTML a few months ago, with learned and interesting commentary from John Foliot and others. After devoting some thought to this, I believe that the amount of argument around this subject is at least partially caused by its separation of the web from the spirit of the web."
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RE: Hot air.
by ssokolow on Mon 10th Jun 2013 01:03 UTC in reply to "Hot air."
ssokolow
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2010-01-21

I tend to choke on notions like "the spirit of the web."

The web is ultimately defined by its users ---

and users are spending much of their time and money on licensed and content protected media services. Amazon. Netflix. Pandora and all the rest.

In an app-oriented world, it becomes easy and plausible to do all your shopping within the Amazon environment. Easy and plausible to keep adding more products and services to the Amazon app to keep users within that environment.

I would much rather see more -- many more -- web sites offering high-quality protected content then the slow death of the web itself as users migrate to the apps and devices which deliver the media content they want and are willing to pay for.


The problem is that that's a false choice.

If we cripple the definition of a "fully functional" browser to the point where only the privileged people trusted with the DRM sauce can make one, then that becomes the new "anyone can write a browser, but nobody can replicate IE6 and everyone needs IE6" web we had back in the bad old days.

Your description matches "the spirit of the web" on the service side (the philosophy that led walled gardens like CompuServe and AOL to lose to the open Internet) but it's important to also have it on the client side.

Keep Flash around for DRM if you must, but don't put DRM in HTML5.

Edited 2013-06-10 01:03 UTC

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RE[2]: Hot air.
by westlake on Mon 10th Jun 2013 03:01 in reply to "RE: Hot air."
westlake Member since:
2010-01-07

Your description matches "the spirit of the web" on the service side (the philosophy that led walled gardens like CompuServe and AOL to lose to the open Internet) but it's important to also have it on the client side.

Keep Flash around for DRM if you must, but don't put DRM in HTML5.


The "walled garden" has returned from the dead --- and draws strength from the kind of product placement that AOL could only dream about.

Think about the iPad and the Kindle.

The Netflix app that is embedded into damn near every home video player, set top box, mobile device or HDTV that is "Internet enabled."

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RE[3]: Hot air.
by ssokolow on Mon 10th Jun 2013 03:07 in reply to "RE[2]: Hot air."
ssokolow Member since:
2010-01-21

"Your description matches "the spirit of the web" on the service side (the philosophy that led walled gardens like CompuServe and AOL to lose to the open Internet) but it's important to also have it on the client side.

Keep Flash around for DRM if you must, but don't put DRM in HTML5.


The "walled garden" has returned from the dead --- and draws strength from the kind of product placement that AOL could only dream about.

Think about the iPad and the Kindle.

The Netflix app that is embedded into damn near every home video player, set top box, mobile device or HDTV that is "Internet enabled."
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Think about non-Kindle devices like Android phones, Desktops PCs, and, to some extent (given Apple's ability to dictate and change policy), iOS devices.

Would you rather have one app that's a walled garden for a given provider or have the entire browser get incrementally captured by that same garden because the average person sees their techie friend as "weird" or "silly" for using some other browser when sites' efforts for ensure compatibility guarantee that the garden's browser does everything they want plus plays DRMed content?

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