Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sun 9th Jun 2013 21:47 UTC
Legal The former NSA employee - a man in military service in the US for a decade - has revealed himself in an interview with The Guardian. "The NSA has built an infrastructure that allows it to intercept almost everything. With this capability, the vast majority of human communications are automatically ingested without targeting. If I wanted to see your emails or your wife's phone, all I have to do is use intercepts. I can get your emails, passwords, phone records, credit cards. I don't want to live in a society that does these sort of things [...] I do not want to live in a world where everything I do and say is recorded. That is not something I am willing to support or live under." He did it out of a sense of civic duty. He's in Hong Kong, and doesn't expect to ever see home again. Poor guy.
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RE: What can I say?
by gilboa on Mon 10th Jun 2013 06:42 UTC in reply to "What can I say?"
gilboa
Member since:
2005-07-06

That guy's got some serious balls. He has my respect.


For what? He ran *before* he released the documents.
In my book, this is called hit and run.

This of-course, assuming that he wasn't granted a large sum of money from the Chinese government for spilling his guts - an act that not only dents his "I'm a martyr" image but also should place him in the wrong side of a firing squad.

BTW, I'm not even American so I don't really care.

- Gilboa

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RE[2]: What can I say?
by RshPL on Mon 10th Jun 2013 08:58 in reply to "RE: What can I say?"
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2009-03-13

I am not an American as well and I think you should care. Like it or not, America still has large influence on the world, it is as simple as that.

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RE[2]: What can I say?
by arpan on Mon 10th Jun 2013 09:23 in reply to "RE: What can I say?"
arpan Member since:
2006-07-30

I'm not American either, but I do care about this.

The fact is, the surveillance isn't limited to Americans. Based on the information that's leaked, it looks like they have been keeping track of people all over the world, including many Indians.

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RE[3]: What can I say?
by gilboa on Mon 10th Jun 2013 09:35 in reply to "RE[2]: What can I say?"
gilboa Member since:
2005-07-06

I'm not American either, but I do care about this.

The fact is, the surveillance isn't limited to Americans. Based on the information that's leaked, it looks like they have been keeping track of people all over the world, including many Indians.


I should point out that I have some internal knowledge at how LEA DPI solutions work, and who they usually target.
Plus, I have a fairly good idea how many lives have been saved due to intelligence generated by such systems.

When I said I don't care, I meant it literally - the debate, in my view is plain stupid.
In an age where people more-or-less lost all barriers when it comes to sharing personal information (Be that over Facebook, Twitter, Google Plus, etc) the assumption that there such thing as "personal privacy" is amusing at best. The NSA is no better nor worse than any social network web-site selling user information to ad networks.

In my view, the question everybody should be asking is not whether the NSA should or should not be conducting mass scale DPI - but actually, how come the NSA *failed* to stop the terror attacks in 9/11 and the recent attacks in Boston.

- Gilboa

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RE[3]: What can I say?
by Carewolf on Mon 10th Jun 2013 20:25 in reply to "RE[2]: What can I say?"
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2005-09-08

Actually, the point is mainly to monitor foreigners. Remember to spy on American citizens even the NSA needs some kind of formal warrant, but to spy on foreigners they need nothing, they can do so however they please.

This is the primary function of the system, to spy on foreigners. They gather more private data from Iran, Pakistan and even Germany than the US.

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