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OSNews, Generic OSes "HP has announced the end of support for OpenVMS, the ancient but trustworthy server operating system whose creator went on to build Windows NT. OpenVMS started out as VAX/VMS on Digital Equipment Corporation's VAX minicomputers, then later was ported to DEC's fast Alpha RISC chips " before the Compaq acquisition of Digital led to their untimely demise. HP ported the software to the Itanium, but HP isn't going to bother moving to the last generation of IA64 and support will finally end in 2015." The article seems to have confused the end of support of VMS (which projected to happen some time after December 2020) with the end of IA64 sales for machines that support VMS and/or the end of support of the Alpha version of the operating system, but it seems either way that the venerable operating system is on its way to meeting the same fate as MPE.
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RE: Very sad.
by kaiwai on Tue 11th Jun 2013 07:32 UTC in reply to "Very sad."
kaiwai
Member since:
2005-07-06

My favorite OS. Ahh well. The writing was on the wall years ago...


True, even before Compaq was bought out by HP the dead end was pretty much announced when a consumer grade company bought out Tandem and Digital then gutted those organisations by turning them into little more than unofficial dumping grounds for Microsoft's products and services. It is depressing that the old pillars of the IT industry are dying - SGI, SUN, Tandem, Digital being examples in the last decade that have disappeared. it is depressing because the industry before was pluralistic and innovative but all we have now are Microsoft at the centre and OEM's as little more than unofficial subsidiaries of Microsoft with next to no originality in their hardware/software delivery other than price, what crapware is rammed down the customers throat and the colour of the box the computer is sold in.

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RE[2]: Very sad.
by moondevil on Tue 11th Jun 2013 12:22 in reply to "RE: Very sad."
moondevil Member since:
2005-07-08

This is what happens when you race to the bottom and the only concern is price.

We are seeing this happening in Android ecosystem as well.

And it will happen in any cheap enough OS that gets picked up bye OEM to work as commodity for hardware.

Sadly very few seem willing to invest on OS R&D.

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RE[3]: Very sad.
by tidux on Tue 11th Jun 2013 15:21 in reply to "RE[2]: Very sad."
tidux Member since:
2011-08-13

Linux exists, and it's hard to compete with free. That's pretty much dooming commercial Unix.

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RE[3]: Very sad.
by tylerdurden on Tue 11th Jun 2013 16:58 in reply to "RE[2]: Very sad."
tylerdurden Member since:
2009-03-17

computing technology is a commodity now, and that is a very good thing.

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RE[3]: Very sad.
by Yoko_T on Tue 11th Jun 2013 19:02 in reply to "RE[2]: Very sad."
Yoko_T Member since:
2011-08-18

This is what happens when you race to the bottom and the only concern is price.

We are seeing this happening in Android ecosystem as well.

And it will happen in any cheap enough OS that gets picked up bye OEM to work as commodity for hardware.

Sadly very few seem willing to invest on OS R&D.


Why bother when what all the "reaseach" seems to produce is stinking garbage like Gnome3,Unity, Windows8, and the various Apple Crapple products?

Edited 2013-06-11 19:03 UTC

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RE[2]: Very sad.
by Tuishimi on Tue 11th Jun 2013 16:48 in reply to "RE: Very sad."
Tuishimi Member since:
2005-07-06

I know... remember WANG too? That was another decent company that died when the founder died... And I always wished I owned a nice SGI workstation. They were just too expensive to even consider back then.

I know it does no good to look back on what was often, but I do like to think back on the decade or so I spent at DEC. It was a lot of fun.

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RE[3]: Very sad.
by sysjkb on Tue 11th Jun 2013 18:41 in reply to "RE[2]: Very sad."
sysjkb Member since:
2006-06-29

Wang actually offers a wonderful counterpoint to this decision by HP. Bleeding cash in part from trying to keep their Wang VS line competitive, post-bankruptcy they came to the realization that they *couldn't* compete. Other companies facing this decision just gave up (e.g. Pr1me). But what Wang did instead was "manage the decline", putting in a small amount of resources into both hardware and software, providing upgrades for existing customers. Everyone was happy -- Wang (now Getronics) has made a lot of money for its small investments, and customers are happy that they've not been forced to switch platforms. The last hardware was produced around 2000, and in 2005 Transvirtual produced an emulator that allowed the Wang VS to run as a virtual machine on Linux, which means the VS customers can get steadily faster machines without Getronics needing to pay for any hardware development whatsoever.

In summary, I think this is a bad decision by HP. VMS still has a pretty big install base; there's no reason HP can't just milk them for the next umpty years.

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RE[2]: Very sad.
by zima on Fri 14th Jun 2013 18:33 in reply to "RE: Very sad."
zima Member since:
2005-07-06

It is depressing that the old pillars of the IT industry are dying - SGI, SUN, Tandem, Digital being examples in the last decade that have disappeared. it is depressing because the industry before was pluralistic and innovative

It wasn't all good, hardly anybody could afford those "innovations" of the past days.

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