Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 11th Jun 2013 08:10 UTC
Games Sony just won the console war for this generation. Not only is the PS4 going to be cheaper, Sony's CEO gloated on stage last night at E3 with the biggest possible grin as he detailed that all that nonsensical DRM crap that Microsoft is pulling, like blocking used games sales and stuff like that? Yeah, Sony's PS4 will have none of that. Sony even made an instructional video to explain how sharing games works.
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RE: Damn you Sony!
by Deviate_X on Tue 11th Jun 2013 10:36 UTC in reply to "Damn you Sony!"
Deviate_X
Member since:
2005-07-11

We are supposed to hate you! I have had you on my evil corporation list almost as long as Microsoft. Microsoft is starting to look good due to comparisons with Apple, and now Sony is looking good in comparison to Microsoft.

Damn you Sony, I want to hate you!


I suspect that Apples success with DRM has emboldened the DRM-god at MSFT.

MSFT has included Apple style DRM with music, video and now games and gone even further than Apple by including region restrictions, TPM requirement, required internet (for media and games) and god knows what other type of unannounced traps, for their unsuspecting and _paying_ customers.

Hopefully the XBox One will die because of this and MSFT will be forced to learn a hard, and painful lesson.

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RE[2]: Damn you Sony!
by bnolsen on Tue 11th Jun 2013 12:51 in reply to "RE: Damn you Sony!"
bnolsen Member since:
2006-01-06

funny how ms forgot the lesson of their initial success. IBM gave up control of the PC platform and it beat out apple's more advanced but more tightly controlled system in the 80s. ios's loss of market share in the 2010s seems to be another replay of the same in mobile, this time with android being the open system. with ninty not doing well and Sony being Sony you might think this gen would be a slam dunk, but no, ms wants it all and may end up turning this into a fail.

I think ms needs to slash and burn their management and marketing departments, neither seem to understand consumers.

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RE[3]: Damn you Sony!
by moondevil on Tue 11th Jun 2013 13:57 in reply to "RE[2]: Damn you Sony!"
moondevil Member since:
2005-07-08

Too many MBA's running the show probably.

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RE[3]: Damn you Sony!
by tylerdurden on Tue 11th Jun 2013 17:02 in reply to "RE[2]: Damn you Sony!"
tylerdurden Member since:
2009-03-17

I think ms needs to slash and burn their management and marketing departments, neither seem to understand consumers.


Out of curiosity, have you checked MS's stock price?

Edited 2013-06-11 17:07 UTC

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RE[2]: Damn you Sony!
by lucas_maximus on Tue 11th Jun 2013 22:42 in reply to "RE: Damn you Sony!"
lucas_maximus Member since:
2009-08-18

Nobody fucking ever mentions Steam, which is the same fucking thing.

Guess what it hasn't hurt it.

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RE[3]: Damn you Sony!
by slashdev on Wed 12th Jun 2013 10:25 in reply to "RE[2]: Damn you Sony!"
slashdev Member since:
2006-05-14

Nobody f--king ever mentions Steam, which is the same f--king thing.

Guess what it hasn't hurt it.



Steam is similar, but there are some stark differences:
Steam has competition
-There will be none on the Xbox One

Steam doesnt own the platform
-My PC is my own, I didnt pay Steam $499 for the right to use my PC

Steam has offline mode
-Xbox one will require a callback every 24 hours or your games will be disabled

Steam's online match making is free
-Xbox one is $50/year (so far)

Steam Games has a track record of lowering prices far below retail within months
-Xbox live Games on Demand does not, there are still way to many full games that track retail disc based pricing (some years after release). One funny example is there are games that have PC releases...and on steam they are 80%+ cheaper than the Games On Demand version

Now there are some things that are actually BETTER than Steam:
Microsoft will allow up to 10 people to play your games simultaneously.
-Steam only allows one person per account

Microsoft will allow said 10 people to play on any xbox simultaneously
-Steam allows only one person, on one single PC at a time

Microsoft will allow you to trade/sell games (publishers may charge a fee)
-Steam has never had this option, though some have had success selling their entire accounts off

Microsoft will let you add traded or USED games
-Steam no such luck

Edited 2013-06-12 10:30 UTC

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