Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 11th Jun 2013 08:10 UTC
Games Sony just won the console war for this generation. Not only is the PS4 going to be cheaper, Sony's CEO gloated on stage last night at E3 with the biggest possible grin as he detailed that all that nonsensical DRM crap that Microsoft is pulling, like blocking used games sales and stuff like that? Yeah, Sony's PS4 will have none of that. Sony even made an instructional video to explain how sharing games works.
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Should I be more excited?
by tkeith on Tue 11th Jun 2013 13:06 UTC
tkeith
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2010-09-01

While I'm not the huge gamer I once was, I can't seem to get excited over this. The main reason Microsoft is imposing their rules is because they really want to get past disc based gaming. Should we still be buying discs in 2013? Am I the only one who just wants to download and play games? Sony pushed downloadable and online games in their early announcements, and I think that's what most people will end up doing. Which makes this announcement mostly irrelevant.

They will get you one way or another, either on game price, subscriptions or downloadable content. I really want to like the PS4 more, but the Xbox seems like will be a better experience.

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RE: Should I be more excited?
by BushLin on Tue 11th Jun 2013 13:55 in reply to "Should I be more excited?"
BushLin Member since:
2011-01-26

Is this a serious comment?

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RE: Should I be more excited?
by Lobotomik on Tue 11th Jun 2013 15:58 in reply to "Should I be more excited?"
Lobotomik Member since:
2006-01-03

I will be happily buying plastic discs if this allows me to a) rummage for golden cheapies in video game shops and garage sales, b) sell or give away unwanted games with or without the expensive mediation of Microsoft, c) borrow and lend games unfettered, d) avoid downloading 50GB per game, e) replace my machine struck by lightning and be playing immediately, f) (.....)

Little not to like, really. But it might be me: I still buy CDs, for more or less the reasons detailed above.

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RE: Should I be more excited?
by WorknMan on Tue 11th Jun 2013 18:22 in reply to "Should I be more excited?"
WorknMan Member since:
2005-11-13

The main reason Microsoft is imposing their rules is because they really want to get past disc based gaming. Should we still be buying discs in 2013?


Depends on if you actually want to own your games, or if you want to have some corporation dictating when and how you can play them, and possibly taking away access at some point in the future. A lot of my friends are still playing their Atari 2600/NES/C64/etc games even today. I'm not quite that hardcore... I use emulators ;)

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RE: Should I be more excited?
by tylerdurden on Tue 11th Jun 2013 18:52 in reply to "Should I be more excited?"
tylerdurden Member since:
2009-03-17

The main reason Microsoft is imposing their rules is because they really want to get past disc based gaming.


... which is why they included a BluRay drive, obviously.

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qweedom Member since:
2011-01-01

I thought that was part of their plans to be the one-stop device for media in the living room. It would be hard for them to claim that the Xbox One is that device and then exclude Blu-ray.

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RE: Should I be more excited?
by ze_jerkface on Tue 11th Jun 2013 20:01 in reply to "Should I be more excited?"
ze_jerkface Member since:
2012-06-22

Should we still be buying discs in 2013?


Just because the technology is there does not mean it is in the best interest of consumers to fully adopt it.

Have a look at Steam where $60 games can be found cheaper on Amazon despite the latter distribution method having much higher costs.

Giving publishers pricing control by taking away retail and used game sales pressure is a bad idea. They won't "pass on the savings" just because their costs are lower. This type of Libertarian thinking is extremely naive.

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RE[2]: Should I be more excited?
by tkeith on Tue 11th Jun 2013 21:42 in reply to "RE: Should I be more excited?"
tkeith Member since:
2010-09-01

Seams like Steam is doing pretty well for itself. The app stores are doing good as well. Games go on sale when they get old and the developers still get a cut instead of a third party store.

You're assuming whatever is cheapest for you is the best method. If developers don't make money they won't make games. And if they try to chase the cheapskates they will never catch them because they will just pirate games.

The old systems worked the way they did because that's all they could do, not because they were just really nice guys. People pirated mp3s because it was easy and free. When Itunes and others made legal mp3s easy most people were willing to pay for them. Make games easier to download and play, people will buy them too. Steam, Itunes, Play store, are all proof.

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