Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 11th Jun 2013 17:07 UTC
Apple We already talked about iOS 7 yesterday (after a night of sleep, it's only looking worse and worse - look at this, for Fiona's sake!), so now it's time to talk about the downright stunning and belly flutters-inducing new Mac Pro. As former owner and huge, huge, huge fan of the PowerMac G4 Cube - I haven't been this excited about an Apple product since, well, I would say the iMac G4. This is the Apple I used to love.
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Bobthearch
Member since:
2006-01-27

Seriously, the people whining about this device don't have a clue as to what they'll use it for. There's not much that you need to plug into a Mac Pro. Video editing? You'll have an external SDI/Capture rig connected via thunderbolt (BlackMagic Design have some really great kit for this.) A monitor, and a keyboard/mouse. That's about it. You might have a thunderbolt or Gigabit attached RAID server.


Well, for photo/video work a DVD-RW drive would be critical, and some users will require a blue-ray burner. Definitely a multi card reader. Easily expandable storage. Sound card with a full range of in-out ports.

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ezraz Member since:
2012-06-20

Whatever particular production you do (audio, video, film, animation, programming) -- if you have the budget you might need something external that expands or improves upon what's built in. But this is good design on Apple's part, not bad.

Why should I (audio producer) have to pay for video features I'll never use? Why would I want empty space for 4 internal devices I'll never buy and which would operate slower than what I can put on a single thunderbolt cable?

I know I can't have 2-5 fans spinning in my studio, above or below the desk. Quiet is very important for me and anyone doing production.

All audio studios use AD interfaces in external boxes - no one pro has random soundcards sticking out of their CPU box - that's very 90's.

I see Thunderbolt to Interface box, then Thunderbolt to Drive array, then Thunderbolt to 4k display. That's a whole lot of production workstation on 1 cable. If you need the old non-thunderbolt gear, you have 2 firewire 800/400 ports compatible all the way back to 2002 or something, and USB 3/2/1 on top of that. With 2TB of fast SSD, 16gb RAM, 2 video cards, 2 ethernet, fast wifi, and bluetooth in that tube, what exactly are you updating internally?

Also - Anyone who sees no difference between a 3 foot tall beige box with 4 loud fans, case cracked open, card slots full and 10 cables dangling and this tiny little powerhouse cylinder are blind and dumb. Stop ignoring reality. Noise, power usage, cable organization, and presentation (for clients) is all critical stuff, not fluff.

And if you don't care *anything* about looks then I suspect you are wearing a cotton sack around your body, drive a $200 automobile, and haven't combed your hair since 1999. Your walls are white and barren, your floors grey and hard, and your lighting fluorescent and unalterable. You, the one with no love of anything beautiful or efficient, the one with no ego. Yeah right!

I don't have robot ears, sorry JP.

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unclefester Member since:
2007-01-13



Also - Anyone who sees no difference between a 3 foot tall beige box with 4 loud fans, case cracked open, card slots full and 10 cables dangling and this tiny little powerhouse cylinder are blind and dumb. Stop ignoring reality. Noise, power usage, cable organization, and presentation (for clients) is all critical stuff, not fluff.


What a load of BS. Any decent tower (<25dB) is way below the ambient sound level of even the quietest office (40-50dB). My Antec Sonata is a mere 18dB - you literally can't hear it unless you put your ear against the case.

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Darkmage Member since:
2006-10-20

This is exactly what I was talking about. All professionals who have worked with pro level gear, have their own dedicated equipment to handle audio/video I/O. Photo editing is best left to the iMacs and that's where most of that work has been going anyway. If you need a Mac Pro for Image editing then you would have a RAID attached to the machine and a card reader which can be USB 3, Firewire 800, Wireless or direct camera to Mac Pro attachment. Apple doesn't need to provide more options for you to connect gear to this machine. It easily does enough. Optical media is dead, you shouldn't even need to burn a bluray or dvd. That's the role of the pressing factory in China. You send them the digital masters and they press them to disc.

Edited 2013-06-13 09:27 UTC

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jared_wilkes Member since:
2011-04-25

Bwahahahaha!! A DVD drive is critical? You do not know a single audio/video pro, do you? Audio/video pros buying a rig that will total from $5,000-12,000 do not view a $30 optical drive as critical. It's an annoyance if it comes up at all.

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