Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 11th Jun 2013 17:07 UTC
Apple We already talked about iOS 7 yesterday (after a night of sleep, it's only looking worse and worse - look at this, for Fiona's sake!), so now it's time to talk about the downright stunning and belly flutters-inducing new Mac Pro. As former owner and huge, huge, huge fan of the PowerMac G4 Cube - I haven't been this excited about an Apple product since, well, I would say the iMac G4. This is the Apple I used to love.
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RE[2]: I like it
by ezraz on Thu 13th Jun 2013 15:49 UTC in reply to "RE: I like it"
ezraz
Member since:
2012-06-20

on the pc you have no need for thunderbolt
even on laptops you have access to pci-e through dockingstations or expresscards
thunderbolt is a solution in search of a problem


says the person that's never swapped a fast external firewire drive from a daisy chain without more than a mouseclick from the host OS.

some of us like simple plugs that auto-configure and chain over medium distances.

plus drives in production studios need to be fast and portable, hence firewire being critical for production rigs, but nearly useless in a general office or programming environment. i can't have cards dangling just to get basic drive connection.

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RE[3]: I like it
by Darkmage on Thu 13th Jun 2013 16:04 in reply to "RE[2]: I like it"
Darkmage Member since:
2006-10-20

I think the discussion on this will always be between people who actually use professional grade gear/have done high end event/film/video production, and those who think they know because they've dabbled at home. Sure they got some stuff working, but they don't rely on it every day, to work every single time they click to render out.

I'm saying this as someone who's had to mix multiple 1080p video streams in realtime, output them to a HD net feed, as well as a LIVE display being watched at the event by thousands of people and record them to disk, as well as add layering effects. The Mac Pros are designed to handle that sort of stressed out workload.

A home PC can technically do it, but will almost certainly fall over at some point. I should know, I've built both kinds of systems. I would take the Mac Pro over the other solution any day of the week. I used to think that the hardware didn't matter, but after actually having to run this stuff in production, I know better. Experience is a harsh teacher.

Edited 2013-06-13 16:14 UTC

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RE[4]: I like it
by ezraz on Thu 13th Jun 2013 16:25 in reply to "RE[3]: I like it"
ezraz Member since:
2012-06-20

Amen to that, perfect post.

Computer nerds / programmers / IT people are not the same as production people. They mingle, but they aren't the same. Something that can be relied on, replicated, or replaced quickly is what producers need. Most have used pro macs or macbooks for over a decade now.

Building your own computer in a production rig is like building your own camera or microphone. Sure it's cool but almost no one uses that stuff for real production, not with clients!

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RE[3]: I like it
by smashIt on Thu 13th Jun 2013 20:27 in reply to "RE[2]: I like it"
smashIt Member since:
2005-07-06

says the person that's never swapped a fast external firewire drive from a daisy chain without more than a mouseclick from the host OS.


you are right, i've never done that
as a matter of fact, im using an Icy Dock for such tasks
contrary to your beloved firewire the dock doesn't limit the performance of the hdd

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RE[4]: I like it
by ezraz on Thu 13th Jun 2013 21:18 in reply to "RE[3]: I like it"
ezraz Member since:
2012-06-20

i don't need a dock, so i don't quite get it. i can just plug anything firewire into anything else.

why do i need a dock?

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