Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 5th Nov 2005 17:49 UTC
Mandriva, Mandrake, Lycoris The Lycoris source-code saga doesn't seem to want to die, but hopefully the following article will kill this already dead horse. "Parties on both sides of the Lycoris source code controversy stepped up to clarify the issues raised in a LXer article published on Wednesday. Both sides took issue with some of the statements in the article. The controversy came to light as a report on OSNews.com, and the ensuing discussion left questions in many users' minds as to whether the code in question would, in fact, be released."
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Moulinneuf
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2005-07-06

"I'm pretty sure these companies release the source for all the software they have to"

And you would be absolutely wrong , if we take whats similar to Iris :

Linspire CNR ?

Xandros Networks ?

Feel free to show the source code that the normal customer as and wich is Open Source.

Standard answer from them is :

Go away , Sign our NDA , Join our Developpers , your a zealot thats hwy you whant the source , no one else would know what to do with it.

But as I always say dont believe me at all verify by yourself.

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I don't think you understand the GPL.

If you modify a GPLed software and distribute it to someone (by selling it, for example) then you must make the changes available to them, if they request.

You do not have to make the source available on a public FTP server, and you do not have to make it available to everyone who asks; you just have to make it available to the people you're distributing the software to.

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Moulinneuf Member since:
2005-07-06

I know you dont know what your talking about at all.

Start by learning the basics and not use some parts when it serve you :

http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.html

"If you modify a GPLed software and distribute it to someone"

Then someone as a copy that he could modify , who can use it and share it with others , thats one of the problem that Lycoris had , the non inclusion of all the source code of all the software.

This means in clear that ALL Lycoris employee and Developper cannot use any GPL software at all as they have removed basic freedom right of others and broken there contract with the GPL wich by doing so remove them the right to use all GPL software legally.

"You do not have to make the source available on a public FTP server"

That one you would be somewhat right , its not written but its in the spirit of GNU/Linux since its creation.

"and you do not have to make it available to everyone who asks"

That one is false and make you wrong , ANYONE who ask for it you have to make it availaible to them.

"you just have to make it available to the people you're distributing the software to."

No , definnatly not , its to anyone who ask for the source code.

The GPL whas created to give access at all time to anyone to the source code and protect it from beeing closed to anyone by anyone for any reason.

Mandriva is covered by this :

"even though third parties are not compelled to copy the source along with the object code."

Mandriva acquired the asset of Lycoris and its developper. Sold the last made product from Lycoris.

They ( Mandriva ) did not participate in its creation neither did they have access to that source code. ( feel free to proove otherwise , you have already shown what whas known by all that they sold the last Lycoris made product on there Store )

They ( Mandriva )also said , by written offer tru there CEO by email and by online publication wich whas transmited by GNU/Linux website tru the official channels that once they have the software source code they will make it availaible.

Thats one thing ( respect of the GPL ) that I know Mandriva will comply with , they , unlike you and those making the accusation , have a very long track record of following and respecting it ( The GPL ) at all time and tru rough time.

- Moulinneuf

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