Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 14th Jun 2013 17:32 UTC
Microsoft From Bloomberg: "Microsoft, the world's largest software company, provides intelligence agencies with information about bugs in its popular software before it publicly releases a fix, according to two people familiar with the process. That information can be used to protect government computers and to access the computers of terrorists or military foes." The lid has officially been blown off.
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RE[2]: Great Firewall of China
by acobar on Sun 16th Jun 2013 02:32 UTC in reply to "RE: Great Firewall of China"
acobar
Member since:
2005-11-15

What part of "ONE of the reasons" you missed? What I left subtle on my comment and, unluckily, one thing that strongly ties USA and China governments is that them both are paranoid states where the powerful elite are more than willing to sacrifice the liberty and privacy of their citizens to justify the maintaining of the status-quo.

They label and treat their own people and other countries under suspicion flag and as so they prepare the communication infra-structure with barriers and traps, frequently overstepping their own legal systems. This is what USA did as also China. They both went to extreme extents on that. USA, China, Russia and some other countries have power circles that are way too poisonous.

What I left tacit is not that China already did know about PRISMA but that paranoid countries act on presumption and that they use all available disinformation techniques to gain some advantage. Specifically, on USA case, many politicians and members of the government went public to criticize the GFC when they probably already knew about the USA spy efforts. I guess, it is too much to assume the all readers will infer that. Well, I hope your self-confidence on your cognitive abilities do not get affected.

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BallmerKnowsBest Member since:
2008-06-02

What part of "ONE of the reasons" you missed?


Please. It really doesn't matter hether you claim it as one reason, or the sole reason - it's still an absurd, completely unsubstantiated claim. Bullshit is still bullshit, the quantity doesn't change that.

What I left subtle on my comment and, unluckily, one thing that strongly ties USA and China governments is that them both are paranoid states where the powerful elite are more than willing to sacrifice the liberty and privacy of their citizens to justify the maintaining of the status-quo.

They label and treat their own people and other countries under suspicion flag and as so they prepare the communication infra-structure with barriers and traps, frequently overstepping their own legal systems. This is what USA did as also China. They both went to extreme extents on that. USA, China, Russia and some other countries have power circles that are way too poisonous.


I hate to use this twice in one month, but...

False equivalence is a logical fallacy which describes a situation where there is a logical and apparent equivalence, but when in fact there is none.
[...]
A common way for this fallacy to be perpetuated is one shared trait between two subjects is assumed to show equivalence, especially in order of magnitude, when equivalence is not necessarily the logical result.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_equivalence

What I left tacit is not that China already did know about PRISMA but that paranoid countries act on presumption and that they use all available disinformation techniques to gain some advantage. Specifically, on USA case, many politicians and members of the government went public to criticize the GFC when they probably already knew about the USA spy efforts.


False equivalence, once again - you do realize that spying is not the same thing as censorship, right?

I guess, it is too much to assume the all readers will infer that. Well, I hope your self-confidence on your cognitive abilities do not get affected.


Wow. I hope you used plenty of lubricant, wouldn't want you to get chafed from stroking your own ego so enthusiastically.

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RE[4]: Great Firewall of China
by acobar on Sun 16th Jun 2013 21:47 in reply to "RE[3]: Great Firewall of China"
acobar Member since:
2005-11-15

Please. It really doesn't matter hether you claim it as one reason, or the sole reason - it's still an absurd, completely unsubstantiated claim. Bullshit is still bullshit, the quantity doesn't change that.


Let me see, it is bullshit because you said so?

False equivalence, once again - you do realize that spying is not the same thing as censorship, right?


And you do realize that they are not mutually exclusive do you? USA has been doing censorship and spying since forever. You do not believe me right? So, what do you think are the so called "classified information" that is all over the place? Also, go and read history facts about human tragedies triggered by USA actions all around the globe. No that big difference to me between USA government elite and the their bad pals around the globe.

And please, stop projecting your own sexual fantasies on others, keep them to yourself, there are some things that are better to maintain private. ;-)

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