Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 20th Jun 2013 18:29 UTC, submitted by MOS6510
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless So, The Wall Street Journal is reporting that Microsoft was very close to take over Nokia, but that the talks eventually broke down, probably beyond repair - at least for now. The reasons the talks broke down illustrate something that I have repeatedly tried to make clear for a long time now: Nokia isn't doing well.
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patents
by robojerk on Thu 20th Jun 2013 20:10 UTC
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2006-01-10

Elop is an idiot. He confirmed that when he declared Android to be it's competition, and wanted to compete only using WP7 against all the other handset makers that were selling both wp7 and Android, or iOS.

Besides firing Elop, I think Nokia could stand a chance at some recovery if they started selling Android phones immediately. Their hardware looks really good, and regardless of one's opinion of WP7, it isn't making a dent in the Android/iOS ecosystems.

If their hardware had software on it that could sell better, they could at least try to turn things around.

If they decide to stand proud on their sinking ship, or fail to turn things around, I could imagine someone will want to buy them, if only for their patent portfolio (I'm only guessing it would have to be somewhat decent). I see Amazon, Microsoft, Google'rola, Apple, Samsung all bidding.

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RE: patents
by Kishe on Thu 20th Jun 2013 20:29 in reply to "patents"
Kishe Member since:
2006-02-16

There was time when nokia and motorola would consist of 90% of mobile related patents.

Android wont save nokia as samsung is only profit making android manufacturer and even it's looking to replace it (tizen)

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RE[2]: patents
by No it isnt on Thu 20th Jun 2013 20:44 in reply to "RE: patents"
No it isnt Member since:
2005-11-14

I'll just make the bold bet that Samsung will never replace Android with Tizen.

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RE[2]: patents
by robojerk on Thu 20th Jun 2013 20:59 in reply to "RE: patents"
robojerk Member since:
2006-01-10

I said they could try to recover using Android, Never said it was for certain. Beats being too proud to try a change from their failed model.

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RE[2]: patents
by bnolsen on Fri 21st Jun 2013 19:09 in reply to "RE: patents"
bnolsen Member since:
2006-01-06

Let's see: try to take part of a still growing market or wallow in an extremely low growth market, spending tons of marketing money and getting nothing out of their investment.

Just because no one but samsung is making money off android doesn't mean everyone else is losing money hand over fist with android.

Nokia might have a better shot at using their name and hardware to actually push into the android market and possibly compete with Samsung.

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RE: patents
by Lennie on Fri 21st Jun 2013 08:53 in reply to "patents"
Lennie Member since:
2007-09-22

Supposedly Huawei is looking into buying Nokia.

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