Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 20th Jun 2013 18:29 UTC, submitted by MOS6510
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless So, The Wall Street Journal is reporting that Microsoft was very close to take over Nokia, but that the talks eventually broke down, probably beyond repair - at least for now. The reasons the talks broke down illustrate something that I have repeatedly tried to make clear for a long time now: Nokia isn't doing well.
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RE[5]: patents
by bentoo on Fri 21st Jun 2013 05:15 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: patents"
bentoo
Member since:
2012-09-21

They use tizen. They just use it for leverage rather than product development.


I disagree. I think there will be a point soon when Google's Android is just holding Samsung back. And if they can leverage a compatible alternative that would avoid licensing fees it would make real sense to switch.

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RE[6]: patents
by No it isnt on Fri 21st Jun 2013 14:29 in reply to "RE[5]: patents"
No it isnt Member since:
2005-11-14

There are no licensing fees to Android. There would be to Tizen, however, if it were to run Android applications flawlessly. Plenty of applications depend on things like Google Maps, which is not part of the base AOSP distribution (and without which Android pretty much sucks).

Oh, and before Android is "holding Samsung back", Tizen at least will have to catch up with it. Which it won't -- ever. Hell, Tizen hasn't even caught up with MeeGo Harmattan.

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RE[7]: patents
by cdude on Fri 21st Jun 2013 17:42 in reply to "RE[6]: patents"
cdude Member since:
2008-09-21

Tizen hasn't even caught up with MeeGo Harmattan.


They don't need to cause MeeGo isn't in competition. They need only to be similar good to Android. HTML5 vs Java. Can't say which is more worse yet.

Edited 2013-06-21 17:42 UTC

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RE[7]: patents
by bentoo on Fri 21st Jun 2013 23:06 in reply to "RE[6]: patents"
bentoo Member since:
2012-09-21

There are no licensing fees to Android. [/quote]

Simply incorrect. Samsung has to pay Google licensing for Google applications/services (in addition to Microsoft licensing).

[q]Oh, and before Android is "holding Samsung back", Tizen at least will have to catch up with it. Which it won't -- ever. Hell, Tizen hasn't even caught up with MeeGo Harmattan.


Why? Most of the users don't know or even care what the underlying OS on their phone is. If it runs and has the features and apps they want nobody will care that Tizen hasn't caught up to Android. After all, the majority of people think that TouchWiz IS Android and that the back button is supposed to be on the left not the right.

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