Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 5th Nov 2005 17:51 UTC, submitted by AdriAn Avila
Novell and Ximian Rumors circulating that Novell is going to kill off its popular Linux desktop lines are completely false. [However,] Novell is making one large strategic change. The GNOME interface is going to become the default interface on both the SLES and Novell Linux Desktop line. KDE libraries will be supplied on both, but the bulk of Novell's interface moving forward will be on GNOME. "The entire KDE graphical interface and product family will continue to be supported and delivered on OpenSuSE."
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Good news
by unoengborg on Sat 5th Nov 2005 21:38 UTC
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Standardizing on Gnome seam to be a very good idea. I'm by no means saying that KDE is a bad desktop, on the contrary it is very good, but Gnome is good enough. A standardized look of the commercial Linux desktop is more important than the additional bells and whistles KDE would have offered.

The notion of a standard will make it easier to convince companies to port applications to Linux as they will only have to offer support to one desktop.
To Novell this is important, as the more applications that becomes available the easier it will be to sell subscriptions.

Chosing Gnome over KDE as the standard is rather obvious. First we have the licensing problems of QT, not that a the cost of a QT license is that high, but it makes it harder for semiprofessional developers to enter the market.

Another problem is the KDE configurability and notoriously bad defaults. Being able to change everything and sit down and make it just right for days, is fine for the geek home user who even might find this process fun. However, when you have to pay somebody for doing that, instead of having that person doing productive work it is not fun anymore. Windows suffers from the same problem by the way.

In Gnome simple things are kept simple. This will make Gnome users become productive faster, and will require less training costs. Lessened costs is one of the thing Novell, and other commercial Linux distros tries to offer their customers. So from a business point of view this makes sense.

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RE: Good news
by on Sat 5th Nov 2005 22:02 in reply to "Good news"
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> This will make Gnome users become productive faster

I didn't made that experience. Actually I had a lot of problems using GNOME specially all the basic features don't really work. Printing, Mailing, Crashing, Weak apps and so on. I always have to seek for KDE alternatives to get my work done.

> Lessened costs is one of the thing Novell, and other
> commercial Linux distros tries to offer their
> customers.

That's whyt many companies aquiring licenses and support from Trolltech to get their software ported and working. They don't need to waste hours of manpower to google for GTK+ solutions, they simply call up Trolltech and continue doing their work. Even the OOP approach of QT allows rapid application development.

> So from a business point of view this makes sense.

Exactly! It makes a lot of sense as we can see on Trolltechs portfolio they have a lot of really known companies who use their work. It speaks lectures.

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RE[2]: Good news
by unoengborg on Sun 6th Nov 2005 02:46 in reply to "Good news"
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2005-07-06


> This will make Gnome users become productive faster

I didn't made that experience. Actually I had a lot of problems using GNOME specially all the basic features don't really work. Printing, Mailing, Crashing, Weak apps and so on. I always have to seek for KDE alternatives to get my work done.


I think we are talking about different things. I talk about how Gnome is supposed to work, you are talking about bugs.

Up until Gnome 2.6 or even 2.8 I would agree with you, that the basic functions was too bug ridden to be of any use for real work.

It was not long ago I always found myself going back to KDE to get work done after trying Gnome, but after using late Gnome distros such as Ubuntu and Fedora I would say Gnome is shaping up rapidly. This time I will not switch back on the grounds that Gnome is technically substandard.



Exactly! It makes a lot of sense as we can see on Trolltechs portfolio they have a lot of really known companies who use their work. It speaks lectures.


I agree with you that Trolltech technology is superior to gtk, but unfortunately the best technology doesn't allways win. Just remember the case of the much better Sony Betamax being beaten by the mediocre VHS VCR systems.

Sure, QT makes development faster, but Gnome/Gtk is not that bad if you use e.g. gtkmm/glade. The problem is that KDE lacks so much in the usability and accessability department that it doesn't make up for the better development process in KDE.

After all, in most cases there are more users than developers. Just look at the old MacOS, it was hell to developers but even so Apple is still alive and kicking today.

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