Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sun 23rd Jun 2013 18:39 UTC
Apple "Apple's new iOS 7, which the company unveiled last week at its Worldwide Developer Conference, says a lot about the future of mobile devices because Apple owns the future of mobile devices." If you're an Apple fanatic, you're going to love this article. If you're not an Apple fanatic, you'll be shaking your head in disbelief that the once great AppleInsider runs stuff like this these days. Hey, there's always MacRumors - the last great bastion of proper Apple rumour reporting.
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RE[4]: Comment by Wafflez
by Nelson on Sun 23rd Jun 2013 20:57 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by Wafflez"
Nelson
Member since:
2005-11-29

Google's services are value-add on top of Android which could go away as soon as viable alternatives are found.

There is extraordinary pressure on OEMs to do this given the razor thin margins everyone except Samsung enjoys. Being able to subsidize cost on the back of a service is the next logical step in the Android price war going on.

Amazon has already done it, why not others? Google would be wise to worry, and wiser to exert some more control over their platform before it gets away from them.

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RE[5]: Comment by Wafflez
by unclefester on Mon 24th Jun 2013 05:10 in reply to "RE[4]: Comment by Wafflez"
unclefester Member since:
2007-01-13

Amazon has already done it, why not others? Google would be wise to worry, and wiser to exert some more control over their platform before it gets away from them.


Amazon is really little more than a sophisticated Ponzi scheme with Jeff Bezos as the main beneficiary. Amazon doesn't makes a profit. It will almost certainly never be a sound investment because its "business plan" relies on selling items below cost (if you include shipping costs) and avoiding sales tax. This creates a massive but unsustainable market. If Amazon charged the real costs of its' products its' market would collapse overnight.

Edited 2013-06-24 05:20 UTC

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RE[5]: Comment by Wafflez
by pos3 on Mon 24th Jun 2013 08:04 in reply to "RE[4]: Comment by Wafflez"
pos3 Member since:
2010-06-25

Samsung is not able to match specs for lower end local branded mobiles sold in india. There are more then 5 major indian brands fighting for the lower end which questions how thin or thick are those margins.

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RE[6]: Comment by Wafflez
by unclefester on Mon 24th Jun 2013 08:23 in reply to "RE[5]: Comment by Wafflez"
unclefester Member since:
2007-01-13

Samsung is not able to match specs for lower end local branded mobiles sold in india. There are more then 5 major indian brands fighting for the lower end which questions how thin or thick are those margins.


Samsung doesn't want to compete at the very bottom end of the market. Samsung handsets typically have lower specifications but better quality than many similarly priced handsets.

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RE[5]: Comment by Wafflez
by JAlexoid on Mon 24th Jun 2013 09:36 in reply to "RE[4]: Comment by Wafflez"
JAlexoid Member since:
2009-05-19

Amazon has done that, and lost most of the value that Google now provides. But to be fair - it's hard to replace Google's services, they are just too good.

And no, OEMs are not scrambling to replace Google. They are scrambling to find that value-add that will lure in people.

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RE[5]: Comment by Wafflez
by Bennie on Mon 24th Jun 2013 17:24 in reply to "RE[4]: Comment by Wafflez"
Bennie Member since:
2012-06-14

IF high-end phones from HTC Sony and Samsung are all comparably priced, why is it then that the margins are much thinner for HTC and Sony than for Samsung? I guess all those phones are being build for 150-200 USD and sold for about 500-600 USD.

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RE[6]: Comment by Wafflez
by bentoo on Mon 24th Jun 2013 18:33 in reply to "RE[5]: Comment by Wafflez"
bentoo Member since:
2012-09-21

IF high-end phones from HTC Sony and Samsung are all comparably priced, why is it then that the margins are much thinner for HTC and Sony than for Samsung?


Samsung produces more of their components (CPU, memory, screen, etc.) in house and thus has better margins.

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