Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 26th Jun 2013 16:41 UTC
Windows Microsoft has released the Windows 8.1 preview for download, but they region-locked it to 13 specific languages, and Dutch is not one of them. So, even though my Surface RT has been completely and utterly English from the day I bought it, I can't install Windows 8.1 and tell you something about it. Those of you who can download it, why don't you tell us what it's like - or you can head to The Verge who got early access. In case you couldn't tell, I'm a little annoyed that we're arbitrarily being left out once again.
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RE[7]: Start Button Useless??
by M.Onty on Wed 26th Jun 2013 20:13 UTC in reply to "RE[6]: Start Button Useless??"
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Well since you asked. Most nerds see the start menu as a heirarchical list of applications just like it was in 1995. They are unable to accept that for quite some time now this is not the primary function nor the most efficient way to use the menu.

Do you waste hours of your life "optimising" the start menu heirarchy so you can find your applications "faster"?

I'm happy to accept that the drawers/list method is not the most efficient. I think a combination of commonly used list on one side & a catagorised drawers list next to it is good, but no doubt others are better.

Ask yourself, are you the guy that still uses "run" under Windows 7/8 rather than just type the command in and press enter?


Do you open Control Panel and browse to an applet?

The Control Panel is a horrible mess, unable to serve either yours or my argument in any meaningful way.

Do you (and I feel dirty just saying this) still use folders to sort and find office documents rather than metadata and search?

Do you, perhaps, see no reason why metadata is better and more flexible than folders? (hint, folders only let data be in one place!)

Do you launch Explorer and then use the search box?

I arrange things in directories, yes. It works well for me as it forces order, but more importantly I move data around on memory sticks almost constantly, so I don't much trust meta-data searches across Windows XP, 7 & Linux to give me an equally useful experience. Folders might make you feel dirty, but they are pretty universal.

However searching by meta-data is a very powerful way doing things. I use it for my e-mails as I only have one e-mail client, which allows me, as you imply, to do very granular & specific searches. Different strokes for different folks. It depends on the way you use the data & the machines you use it within.

If you can answer yes to any of these questions then you're in the minority, and should be using a Start replacement. Everyone else understands.

This comes back to the actual point I was making. If "everyone else understands" then how come sales have been poor? Its not a bunch of geeks that drive sales of Windows boxes; its people from all walks of life. I think you underestimate the conservatism of the average PC user. They seem to want their phones & tablets to do the exciting stuff, but their PCs to evolve gradually.

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